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Otmza Yehudit: "We will not be part of a government that allows Hamas to exist" (Israel)
israelnationalnews.com ^ | 11/28/2023 | Hezki Baruch

Posted on 11/28/2023 4:36:02 PM PST by Nextrush

Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Strength) threatens to resign from government if a deal to release hostages ends the war with Hamas.

Otzma Yehudit threatens to dissolve the government, if Israel does not continue fighting with Hamas in Gaza, after the implementation of the outlines for the return of the captives.

Sources in the party emphasize that if another deal is brought to the government that will result in the stopping of the war, all six Otzma Yehudit Knesset members, led by Minister Itamar Ben Gvir, will leave the coalition.

"The utimate goal of the war is the complete elimination of Hamas. Any deal that entails keeping Hamas alive will lead to more disasters like the Black Sabbath disaster on October 7th, and such a deal means a victory for Hamas in this war," the sources claimed...

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Gaza; Hamas; Israel; Qatar; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; israel; itamarbengvir; middleeast; terrorism; waronterror
I think in the end Biden and Netanyahu will allow Hamas to exist in some form.

Hamas is fueled by the wealthy kingdom of Qatar just like other jihadist groups used by the CIA and allied Deep State intelligence agencies to fight in Syria since 2011.

And yes, Netanyahu was sending money to Hamas to "keep the peace" before the stuff hit the fan on October 7th.

1 posted on 11/28/2023 4:36:02 PM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

Not exactly this but sort of like it:

“I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.

Groucho Marx


2 posted on 11/28/2023 4:41:17 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: Nextrush

Israel needs strong deterrence. They need to publicly state that every missile that comes into an Israel from any country will be responded 20 to 1. You send 20 missiles in Israel you’ll get 200 in return. No exceptions. They also need to promise the same tend to one for every country that provides Hamas leadership with sanctuary.

I’m talking to you, Netanyahu, you weak suck.


3 posted on 11/28/2023 4:44:24 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (With the Federal DOJ illegally hounding President Trump he has become the 1st true black president's)
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To: Nextrush
I think in the end Biden and Netanyahu will allow Hamas to exist in some form.

I don't think so. Netanyahu detests Biden and would like to eliminate Hamas just to infuriate Biden. If Hamas wants to survive, they need to eliminate Netanyahu from power.

4 posted on 11/28/2023 4:44:40 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Nextrush
"We will not be part of a government that allows Hamas to exist"

Oh dear, the Democrats aren't going to like that.

Every government should include plenty of people who want to destroy the government, and the country that government is supposed to represent. At least that seems to be their position.

And Catholic schools must be forced to hire satanists.

5 posted on 11/28/2023 4:46:08 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Nextrush

Bravo !


6 posted on 11/28/2023 4:48:25 PM PST by tomkat
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To: Nextrush

>> Otzma Yehudit threatens to dissolve the government, if Israel does not continue fighting with Hamas in Gaza

GOOD! Hold Netanyahu’s feet to the fire. His weakness and wavering resolve is a surprise and a disappointment.


7 posted on 11/28/2023 4:49:05 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Nextrush

AFAIK, Minister Without Portfolio Gantz would also have to leave with his National Unity Party to bring down the Netanyahu government as constituted today. Seems like a bark without bite.


8 posted on 11/28/2023 4:50:13 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

>> Netanyahu detests Biden

I’m sure he does now. I’ll bet ol’ Benjamin now regrets sucking up to Pedo Joe after the “election” instead of supporting President Trump.


9 posted on 11/28/2023 4:51:24 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

The proof will be in the pudding in the end it most certainly will.

The use of Hamas in Gaza by Israeli’s politicians of the Center like Netanyahu who posture to the Right prior to October 7th stands out like a sore thumb.

Netanyahu was quick to embrace Biden after the election as President Trump pointed out.

But Biden had been pushing Netanyahu to stop the judicial reforms his government was seeking prior to October 7th.

Here too if there are no judicial reforms I think Biden has Netanyahu where Biden wants him.

If Netanyahu wants a future I think he will have to slam Biden saying Biden’s pressure on his government over the judicial reform plans undermined it’s ability to keep Israel secure on October 7th.


10 posted on 11/28/2023 4:51:30 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: wildcard_redneck

400. Israel won’t be taken seriously if it can’t get its math straight.


11 posted on 11/28/2023 4:54:05 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Nextrush
Yehudit: "We will not be part of a government that allows Hamas to exist"

How can anyone in Israel disagree with this position?

12 posted on 11/28/2023 4:55:24 PM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: jjotto

Yeah but this barking builds Jewish Strength (Otzma Yehudit) which was given political polling strength in the aftermath of October 7th.

They win 7 seats in any new election they got 6 now and depending on how compromising Netanyahu is they will get more seats in the Israeli proportional electoral system.


13 posted on 11/28/2023 4:55:33 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

There has been a pretty persistent effort by Mainstream Media to portray the Israel Hamas conflict as an opportunity to blame Netanyahu (whom they hate) for all that goes wrong.

I think this is probably not an instance of true division inside the Israeli political world, but an instance of media excitement of anything that could support their dislike of Netanyahu by promoting the idea of political division.

I think that Israel is pretty clear about what they need to do. Public opinion, political unity, military-civilian relations are all headed in the same anti-Hamas direction.


14 posted on 11/28/2023 4:59:06 PM PST by 2manydegrees
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To: JesusIsLord

The truth about how this world operates is perplexing.

Israel pulled Jewish settlers out of Gaza in 2005 Prime Minister Ariel Sharon the George Patton of the battlefield became more like General Eisenhower the Moderate Republican POTUS.

In 2006 a sudden coup in Gaza installing Hamas in power displacing the Palestinian Authority in Gaza.

Hamas in power in Gaza split Palestinian leadership preventing a unified Palestinian position towards Israel to move towards a Palestinian state.

Israel put Hamas in to prevent the threat of a Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria (The West Bank) IMHO.

Israeli governments allowing Qatar to send the money into Gaza to buy Hamas.

The rocket attacks nasty a few casualties but just like our gov’t intelligence agencies used jihadists in Libya and Syria high authorities (The Deep State Intelligence folks) figured Hamas could keep disorder in the Palestinian ranks and order in Israel.

It all blew up on October 7th just like some guy that used to work for the US fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan named Bin Laden blew things up on 9/11.


15 posted on 11/28/2023 5:05:37 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: wildcard_redneck

That is a promise he couldn’t keep. They do not have the capacity or support to back it up. With Biden and the rats running the US it’s guaranteed Hamas will still exist when this is done


16 posted on 11/28/2023 5:19:05 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: JesusIsLord

I have family in Israel they will freakin riot if they allow Hamas to stay alive no one in Israel wants Hamas to exist no one


17 posted on 11/28/2023 6:12:04 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I have family in Israel they will freakin riot if they allow Hamas to stay alive no one in Israel wants Hamas to exist no one.

And that feeling of outrage matters very little.

The shadow people controlling the US government do not want Israel to succeed in destroying HAMAS. The US has put maximum pressure on Israel to agree to a "ceasefire" by threatening to cut off supplies of ammunition and weapons. It worked.

The Biden government has the Netanyahu government in a bad position. This seems to be unfortunately aided by factions within Israel who oppose Netanyahu and will use anything they can get for an advantage.

The pressure now is to extend that ceasefire permanently. Which of course will allow HAMAS to fully reestablish itself and continue their terrorist campaign against Israel.

I hope that Israel can resist that pressure to let HAMAS live.

I hope that your family will remain safe and can live in peace when this is over.

18 posted on 11/28/2023 8:35:24 PM PST by flamberge (We are living in those "interesting times" the elders warned us about.)
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To: Nextrush

The problem is Joe Biden. His cabal is directly threatening to withhold arms from Israel - which they cannot win without - unless Bibi kowtows to their whims, which includes Hamas’ survival. Bibi needs to take this fight directly to Congress, and also open talks with India to scare Blinken, Obama and Rice.


19 posted on 11/28/2023 9:23:46 PM PST by montag813
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