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To: FLT-bird

Doesn’t work like that. Other than hobby shooters, collectors, and enthusiasts, there is no functional difference between an assault rifle M-16, and a semi auto of the exact same pattern in AR semi style. Both are equally capable, and the semi auto shooter is probably to be feared even more.
Think of it this way. When they say they want to restrict how many bullets someone can buy, you don’t smugly sit there and think “Ha, I’m not a reloader”. And you don’t think you won because they didn’t say how many cartridges you may buy.

Nobody except hobbiests, knows or cares the difference between an official definition assault rifle, and a functionally identical AR-15. For them the difference is it best, academic. They want to take away the rifle somebody walks in with and does a mass murder in the night club. You won’t win a thing by convincing the public that it wasn’t a full auto, and therefore, not an assault rifle, and therefore, completely outside the balance of the discussion the politician is pushing. You win nothing.


39 posted on 10/31/2023 1:17:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino
Doesn’t work like that. Other than hobby shooters, collectors, and enthusiasts, there is no functional difference between an assault rifle M-16, and a semi auto of the exact same pattern in AR semi style. Both are equally capable, and the semi auto shooter is probably to be feared even more.

It does work like that. They are not the same thing at all. An AR-15 has never been a military weapon. What a weapon looks like and what it can actually do are two totally different things. They are not equally capable. If semi automatic rifles were more effective and to be more feared, armies would issue them to their soldiers instead of select fire weapons. Not one army does. They are not as capable.

Nobody except hobbiests, knows or cares the difference between an official definition assault rifle, and a functionally identical AR-15. For them the difference is it best, academic. They want to take away the rifle somebody walks in with and does a mass murder in the night club. You won’t win a thing by convincing the public that it wasn’t a full auto, and therefore, not an assault rifle, and therefore, completely outside the balance of the discussion the politician is pushing. You win nothing.

The discussion does not end with pointing out that they are lying about what is an "assault rifle", what is a "weapon of war" or any of the other scare terms they've invented. First, point out that they are lying and the rifle they are talking about is not what they claim it is....and they know that. Point out that standard capacity magazines have never been found to be a factor in either mass shootings or indeed gun crime. You can reload in literally a second. This isn't new technology either. Its been around a long time. All of this sets up....

Its not the gun that is the problem. The problem is societal. The vast majority of all murders with guns....about 96% are with handguns. There are about 25 million AR-15s in circulation and yet they are very very rarely used to commit crime. So why are they so hot and bothered by the AR-15 or other modern sporting rifles? That's not what is being used. Clearly their motive is not to prevent crime - which as they full know, none of their various bans and restrictions would do anyway. They want to take away your ability to defend yourself. They want to make you LESS SAFE, not more. The gun ban lobby has sinister ulterior motives. You should not surrender any of your rights.

45 posted on 10/31/2023 1:44:48 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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