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Masks Off: Alarming New Gallup Poll Blows Growing Democrat Schism Over the Israel Issue Wide Open
Red State. ^ | October 27, 2023 | Sister Toldjah

Posted on 10/28/2023 5:23:01 AM PDT by george76

Ever since the beginning of the Israel-Hamas war, which was started by Hamas terrorists who launched surprise attacks on Israeli civilians on October 7th, outspoken pro-Israel Democrats have sought to tamp down on talk of there being a major schism among Democrats over the Israel issue.

A prime example is Rep. Ritchie Torres (D-N.Y.), the self-described "embodiment of a pro-Israel progressive," who during a recent interview where he tore into Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) over her suggestion that he was "comfortable" with Palestinian deaths nevertheless denied there was a "deep divide" among Congressional Democrats on the issue of support for Israel:

TORRES: Well, I reject the notion that there's a divide, with a few exceptions. Just about every Democrat has unequivocally voiced support for Israel and condemned the terrorism of Hamas and stood by Israel's right to defend itself. So --

BASH: But there is a divide among progressives?

TORRES: Not in Congress. I think the overall majority of Congress stands for Israel's right to defend itself.

While it's true at least on paper that Congressional Democrats outside of AOC's Squad (aka the Hamas Caucus) have gone on record as unequivocally expressing support for Israel, Torres' careful wording there belied an uncomfortable truth for Democrats beyond the halls of Congress:

As a party, they have a big Israel problem. And it's not going to go away anytime soon.

Confirmation of this has come at least twice this year, first several months prior to the Hamas attacks and then after.

In a write-up Thursday explaining the dramatic 11-point drop in one month for Joe Biden among Democrats, Gallup connected it to his stated support for Israel (bolded emphasis added):

Joe Biden’s job approval rating among Democrats has tumbled 11 percentage points in the past month to 75%, the worst reading of his presidency from his own party. This drop has pushed his overall approval rating down four points to 37%, matching his personal low.

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Immediately after the [Hamas] attack, Biden pledged “rock solid and unwavering” support for Israel from the U.S., and he subsequently visited the country on Oct. 18 to reiterate that message. But Biden has faced criticism from some members of his party for aligning too closely with Israel and not doing enough for the Palestinians. Some prominent Democratic lawmakers and protesters around the U.S. have called for Biden to do more to help the millions of Palestinians who are in need of humanitarian aid as Israel attempts to eradicate Hamas.

Early this year, Gallup found that for the first time in the U.S., Democrats’ sympathies for the Palestinians outpaced those for the Israelis. Although the survey is not designed to allow for statistically reliable estimates for any subset of the three-week polling period, the daily results strongly suggest that Democrats’ approval of Biden fell sharply in the aftermath of the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas and Biden’s promise of full support for Israel on the same day. Biden’s current 75% approval rating among Democrats is well below the 86% average from his own party

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Where the Democrat divide over Israel is most noticeable is among young people:

The divide is particularly stark between generations: Less than half (48%) of Gen Z and millennials believe the U.S. should publicly voice support for Israel, according to a recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.

The Democratic party built this, through several decades of allowing antisemitism to fester and grow unabated within their ranks in academia, in politics, and on a world stage in the name of "tolerance" and "diversity."

As it turns out, though, that over-emphasis on "tolerance" and "diversity" over putting political correctness aside to call out the inconvenient truths about some of the more "diverse" members within their ranks has come at a cost - a big one: Jewish lives.

And in 2024, it may at long last cause Democrats another loss: a significant percentage of Jewish voters who have simply had enough of the Democratic Party trying to have it both ways when it comes to Israel.


TOPICS: Gaza; Government; Hamas; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: democrats; hamas; hamaswar; israel; israelhamaswar; jewishvoters; jews; voters; war
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1 posted on 10/28/2023 5:23:01 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Lots of cultural Jews don't care about Israel.

Many Jews are leftists first, Jews second, and religious... not at all.

2 posted on 10/28/2023 5:27:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

One would think, that notion would change after October 7th and all the hate for Jews that the “party” has generated since. I doubt it will however.


3 posted on 10/28/2023 5:35:55 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: marktwain

Why Jewish people want to vote Democrat is a complete mystery to me. The Democrat party will never protect Jewish people.


4 posted on 10/28/2023 5:37:21 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: bigfootbob
I have been meaning to talk to my best Jewish friend about it.

Great guy. We have been friends for about 30 years.

5 posted on 10/28/2023 5:38:22 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Too bad they don’t understand that the terrorists want Israel gone first. Then they will come after Jews everywhere else in the world...


6 posted on 10/28/2023 5:38:36 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: marktwain
Many Jews are leftists first,

Just like Germany's leftwing NAZI Socialists

7 posted on 10/28/2023 5:40:47 AM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: yldstrk
See my post #2. Lots of cultural Jews are Leftist first and foremost.

Leftist ideology is prioritized over everything else. Marx was a cultural Jew, who hated Jews.

8 posted on 10/28/2023 5:41:42 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: george76
And in 2024, it may at long last cause Democrats another loss: a significant percentage of Jewish voters

Yeah, sure. Wake me up before you gogo.

9 posted on 10/28/2023 5:44:48 AM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: marktwain

Marx was a sociopath.


10 posted on 10/28/2023 5:46:29 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: george76

Jewish people need to quit this notion that “fitting in” is the way to safety. Antisemites don’t give a rat’s axe how well you “fit in”. They hate you because they thrive on hate. Period.


11 posted on 10/28/2023 5:49:57 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk
Marx was a sociopath.

He sure acted like one.

One fundamental thing I see with doctrinaire leftists: they deny the idea of responsibility for one's actions. Marx's big idea was to reverse the arrow of causality.

In Marxist theory, People do not create societies. Societies create people.

12 posted on 10/28/2023 5:51:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: yldstrk

Leftists have to take up the cause of every whiner and Jew hater in the world. They think it makes them smarter than the rest of us Neanderthals.


13 posted on 10/28/2023 5:55:40 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: george76

Can Jews and Jew-haters exist in the same political tent at the same time?

Probably not in close proximity, but their shared Leftist hatred of humanity and their desire for Man’s extinction at least make them simpatico on voting day.


14 posted on 10/28/2023 5:56:43 AM PDT by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of self delusion and self hatred )
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To: virgil

...Neanderthals were pretty smart, supposedly that’s where we got our math skills from(?)


15 posted on 10/28/2023 5:58:33 AM PDT by JJBookman (Democrats = Party that can't do math)
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To: george76

Liberals put their politics before everything else including God and their own country. Liberal Catholics have been doing it for years just like liberal Jews.


16 posted on 10/28/2023 6:03:03 AM PDT by Dave911
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To: george76
Some prominent Democratic lawmakers and protesters around the U.S. have called for Biden to do more to help the millions of Palestinians who are in need of humanitarian aid as Israel attempts to eradicate Hamas.

Yet those same millions of Palestinians overwhelmingly voted Hamas in as the government of Gaza. They knew full well that Hamas advocated war and terrorism against Israel and the Jews.

To quote Barrack Obama, "Elections have consequences."

17 posted on 10/28/2023 6:10:47 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: george76

Any thought that the dems won’t stay united in their destruction of America is not founded on truth. You can only coexist with them by obeying and assimilating.


18 posted on 10/28/2023 6:15:15 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: george76
BASH: But there is a divide among progressives?

TORRES: Not in Congress. I think the overall majority of Congress stands for Israel's right to defend itself.

Typical political Doublespeak masquerading as truth.

They just cannot bring themselves to be accurate and truthful.

In this case, if Congress is not 100% pro-Israel there is a de facto divide.


19 posted on 10/28/2023 6:18:31 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Sun Tzu: An Evil Man Will Burn His Own Nation To The Ground To Rule Over The Ashes. )
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To: Alas Babylon!

The “Palestinians” were dancing in the streets at the news of Israeli children being burnt alive and shot to death in front of their parents. They joined in parading and desecrating the bodies of dead Israelis murdered by Hamas that morning.

Civilized people never celebrate suffering. We don’t celebrate theirs, but you reap what you sow.


20 posted on 10/28/2023 6:26:45 AM PDT by Westbrook (The Democrats are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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