Posted on 10/25/2023 8:10:56 AM PDT by JonPreston
In what manner should be “lay a hand on Iran?”
Are you of the opinion we have not dropped enough bombs on Middle Eastern countries in the last 35 years?
West Point 0-6, and no idiot who is in someone’s employ. The responses from the inside deepers is a circuit test of the information, because without knowing what they know or want to be known- we still can ferret it out. A data point if you will.
The Hamas propaganda is being managed by our own people cut outs to media and repeated by lot’s of sources. The propaganda alone is a war unto itself. Lot’s of sources— and still largely..twitter/x from a very lazy journalist base.
King’s English directed to induce thought. Like a mathematical exercise. This is a “free” platform. One should be careful.
Before getting too far into this, we should ask what’s meant by the term “destroy, and while we are at it, what is “Iran”, the government, the Islamic Culture promoted there, the population, or the economy?
Tea Party Terrorist wrote: “Why should this country “destroy Iran?” Any lessons learned from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya....?”
Lesson: Forget nation building, destroy, then walk away.
Never mind. You don’t want to “lay a hand on” a country that wants you dead. I’m done with your stupidity.
But here’s a clue: If someone tries to lay a hand on your or your family, it’s okay to “lay a hand on” that person preemptively. Learn that and survive. That concludes today’s clue training.
Macgregor certainly triggers the inner butt-hurt 14 year-old girl of a lot of simplistic neocon FReepers
Read the following article from prominent Neocon, Frederick Kagan, the brother in law of Victoria Nuland, Weakness Is Lethal: Why Putin Invaded Ukraine and How the War Must End
"Past is prologue. A ceasefire or negotiation format freezing the conflict along the current lines, which are far more advantageous to Russia than the pre-2022 lines were, will be in Putin’s eyes nothing more than a kind of Minsk III—a new mechanism by which to continue to pursue the same aims. Such a “peace” will be no peace at all. It will simply be an opportunity for Russia to rebuild its military and economic power, allow the West’s attention to be distracted, and seek to regenerate and benefit from cracks within Ukrainian society until it can resume its attacks."
"An enduring end to the current Russian war on Ukraine requires forcing Putin to accept defeat. He—and his successors—must be made to realize that they cannot impose their will on Ukraine and the West militarily, cannot suborn Ukraine politically, and cannot prevail diplomatically. As long as the Kremlin cherishes the hope of success—which any face-saving compromise settlement would fuel—it will continue to seek to overcome its setbacks in ways that make renewed war very likely."
Ukraine and the West should seek a permanent end to this conflict, not a temporary respite. Renewed war will likely be larger in scale and even more dangerous to Ukraine and the West. It will be extremely costly as well since a renewed war once Moscow has rearmed and prepared will likely be far costlier and more dangerous. Demands to reduce the financial burden of supporting Ukraine now simply store up greater risk and expense for the future.
There is no path to real peace other than helping Ukraine inflict an unequivocal military defeat on Russia and then helping to rebuild Ukraine into a military and society so strong and resilient that no future Russian leader sees an opportunity like the ones Putin misperceived in 2014 and 2022. This path is achievable if the West commits to supporting Ukraine in the prolonged effort likely needed to walk down it. If the West is instead lured by the illusion of some compromise, it may end the pain for now, but only at the cost of much greater pain later. Putin has shown that he views compromise as surrender, and surrender emboldens him to reattack. This war can only end not when Putin feels that he can save face, but rather when he knows that he cannot win.
“Was this the idiot who said yesterday the ‘brave’ Gazans just slaughtered a ton of US special forces?”
Yes; according to a thread on FR yesterday, he is.
Another “nuke Tehran for Peace” warmonger who is literally incapable of learning any lessons whatsoever.
“Nuke Tehran for peace. Go ‘merica”
Morons.
Then some ISIS-like movement takes over, moves into foreign countries and we send troops back in. Endless wars.
Just as FDR got us into WWII, whose net result was the reduction of nearly all of the British “empire”. You are correct. The verdict on that rat bastard is all in— the US was coming right out of the Depression which he continued irritate and control. Always enjoy the Smedley Butler USMC expose of the coup that almost was, as the real US powerbrokers knew the inroads the Communists had made in US Socialism/FDR “management”. The darling of the dems,FDR, whom joebama thinks of himself emulating and carrying the torch. What a f up this country has become since before WWII, and now this a-hole wants us in WWIII to cover his utter incompetence.
Another re-work is how brilliant FDR supposedly was to partner with the “shocked” Stalin (without whose US help- the Nazis would have wiped out. 300K US GMC trucks for instance)— that somehow this “ate up” the Red Army and spared the US and Brits on their fronts. It wasn’t FDR’s idea. Winston. And Halifax’s Labor Party dumped Winston immediate end of the war.
McG has clearly entered into the same realm as those YTers who daily post about Putin’s imminent demise and the destruction of “Ruzzia.”
‘Infowars’ indeed. Never before has it been so clear that every source from every angle on these conflicts is wild propaganda to stir up strong emotions and suppress reason.
Move along, little one. I’m done with your analytically-challenged pea-brain.
How many nukes should we drop on Iran? Just hit Tehran and hope for the best, or turn the entire country into glass?
Have fun with your leaps of logic. We’re done here.
Certainly brings out the usual Russian tools in support.
But you never clarified what “laying a hand” on Iran entailed?
Nukes? Conventional bombs? Destroying their refineries? Ground invasion?
Do tell, what is the solution, once and for all, to this issue?
Russia is sort of bogged down at the moment and already lost a lot of soldiers.
He’s literally on Putin’s payroll. Not sure why he isn’t registered as a foreign agent. He’s inching towards treason.
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