Posted on 10/25/2023 7:45:49 AM PDT by DallasBiff
Same
I’ll bet that the hotels you worked at all had defibrillators, at least one per floor.
This is because SADS is enough of a killer that the government decided to mandate defibrillators. This is also the reason that people in the healthcare and related industries must learn CPR. (I even used CPR once to save a life when my son choked.)
The fact that you have never had to deal with a SADS death during your career only means that you were lucky. I have not been so lucky. I have known a few other cases in addition to the young woman I knew who suddenly collapsed dead. I worked at a hospital where an employee collapsed in an area where responders could not bring a crash cart. He died. Another time, a woman collapsed in the cafeteria but a crash cart came and took her away within a couple of minutes. I do not know if she survived. And several years ago, I was driving in Baltimore when a man collapsed on the sidewalk. I didn’t stop because people immediately ran to him, and I do not know the outcome.
My point is that heart disease deaths are relatively common and have always been relatively common. The fact that professional antivaxxers are now using an unfamiliar term for them and implying that they are related to vaccination does not mean that they are anything new.
Really? Can you link to the scientific studies published in actual medical and scientific journals that show this?
Claims you see on an antivax website or blog are either outright lies or a twisted misrepresentation of real science. Either way, they aren't informing you.
Would any freepers take advice from an la times urinalist??
Well, anyone claiming otherwise must be required to explain why the Pfizer tests on preggers killed >80% of the babies.
If the vax kills babies in tests why refuse to concede that it might kill in the wild?
Dr. Fauci was head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID), not the CDC. Both NIAID and the CDC are agencies within Health and Human Services.
Why are you skeptical of the CDC? It employs thousands of scientists (by definition: people who hold a PhD in a STEM field). It collects data from laboratories all over the country. It consults scientists all over the country.
I understand being skeptical of politicians. However, the scientists who work in government agencies are not politicians. They are doing the work they were educated to do—collect, analyze, and report health data. Their only political activity is that they are expected to inform the politicians about health matters.
I will mention that Dr. Fauci has always been very highly respected within the scientific community. I never worked at NIAID, but scientists in every place I worked at always spoke very highly of him. He was appointed as head of NIAID by President G.H.W. Bush because of his outstanding performance as a scientist. And President Trump tagged him to lead the pandemic response for the same reason.
Why?
Most people who work at government agencies are ordinary citizens. They are not politicians (whose jobs basically consist of lying to and backstabbing people in order to get ahead). They are employees. They do the work that they were educated at university to do.
Whenever a health-related agency such as CDC, NIH, FDA, NIAID, etc., gives information and advice related to health, they are informed by scientists all over the country.
Insurance companies have their own data that includes increased claims amongst working employees they insure.
https://www.wndnewscenter.org/its-the-jab-top-insurance-companies-report-spike-in-excess-deaths/
I noticed this tactic. Anytime the Left is proven wrong they start screaming “debunked, discredit, disproven”
Really then show us the proof Alt Leftists.
The edited version is a more likely scenario.
Prove me wrong, exdemmom.
The edited version is a more likely scenario.
Prove me wrong, exdemmom.
All you know is a snapshot on medical history. Relative to your post #1 you could not be more incorrect. But your conformational bias is strongly on display.
When the first sentence of an article is obnoxiously pretentious, you know the rest of the article will be a bunch of condescending asshattery. Lo and behold - it is!
I had all of the vaccine shots, and my children had all of the vaccine shots – not counting the flu shots. I got the flu shot one once (more as a lark), and quickly caught the flu. The flu shots always sounded pretty dicey to me, even though I believed the pro-vaccine propaganda at the time. Even the CDC admitted that the flu shots only had an approximate 30% chance of lining up with the flu virus of that season. So with the choice of taking something that you know includes ‘poisons’ (viruses intended to activate your immune system against that particular virus), that had a good chance of not working against the flu virus of the season, versus letting your body deal with the seasonal flu virus – I opted for the latter.
But this mRNA shot was always something different. It was rushed into production. And after its methodology was explained, it created an extra element of wariness. It sounded like a very clever idea. Rather than injecting the viral poison into your body, and then letting your body learn how to create the antibodies to attack this virus, the mRNA shots tinkered with your body’s programming to get your own body to create the CoVid-like spike proteins – and then your immune system would learn how to attack these spike proteins. A clever idea, but something I would want to wait for a couple of decades of tests and evaluations to make sure there weren’t any unexpected drawbacks. I.e., tinkering with your body’s internal program just sounds very risky. Clever, or not.
But, after the CoVid mRNA shot propaganda push, I did start researching the history of our vaccines, and came away appalled. I recommend reading ‘Turtles All of the Way Down’, a‘Dissolving Illusions’, and ‘Vax vs Non-Vax’. The so-called vaccines are a sham. Their history of success is pretty much fiction. The reduction/elimination of such serious diseases as smallpox, measles, etc., correlates with the implementation of better hygiene and food quality. The death rates from said diseases had already dropped precipitously before the introduction of the vaccines. The vaccines, and their pushers, basically ran to the head of the disease reduction parade – and took credit as being their leader.
A case can be made that all vaccines (not just these new mRNA CoVid shots) have caused more harm than benefit. But the Pharma gravy train is too big to stop. And it would be disastrous for the Medical Community and Government to admit it. A lot of our foreign policy ‘good-will’ has been based on providing free vaccines to poor third world countries (money that would have been better spent on working to provide clean water and better systematic hygiene processes). What would happen if those countries found out that we had been effectively poisoning their children? Thus, all levels of government, Big Pharma, and the Medical community will work to prevent the whiff of any claims that denigrates vaccines from getting out into the wild. Or at least beyond the crazed ‘Anti-Vax ecosystem’.
So yes, I’ve gotten all of the vaccines (not counting the mRNA shots), but today I’d have to cast my lot in with the “Anti-Vaxers”. And, unfortunately, if a real plague came out from the wild – I wouldn’t believe a word that our CDC and Medical Community had to say about it. They burned that bridge of trust, and have done nothing to repair it.
Then you weren’t paying attention
I lost confidence in Fauci when he reversed himself on masks. He rubbed me wrong way when Trump was giving the Covid pressers. He was in the background smirking and rolling his eyes. Exploding at Rand Paul sealed any doubt about what a contemptible worm he is..
Yes indeed. My Trump hating friend is the only person I know who got Covid, and she got it twice. She works as a caregiver and had to have every Moderna shot and booster. I was buying food for her during her very serious illness after her second booster.
It seems exdemmom has given you data which you ignore. Her statement that actuaries don’t have population level data which you do not contest proves the point. However you point out the data set which tends to bolster her argument.
While I have personally always thought fauci is a weasel, even before Covid, he revealed himself as a politician not a clinician. The attacks on fauci extrapolated to the entire cdc and entities whose mission is scientific advancement of medicine is not only unjust, but demonstrates the tizzy in which antivaxxers make simply untrue statements couched as truth will go to in order to confirm their obvious bias but even more their lack of knowledge and reasoning.
“The vaxx kills people and anyone with a brain, and open to reality, knows it.”
possibly, but what we do know is that the vax causes brain cells to produce spike proteins, and then the immune system destroys those cells.
Why do you think that, by law, defibrillators must be located in public places and businesses that have over a certain number of employees?
You're not keeping up with the FR facultyof virology.
The answer, obviously, is time travel. AED's were developed in anticipation of the deadly clot $hot serum, which is really horrid $tuff.
Only a paid $hot $hill would pretend to not know that.
Pretty sure that Steve Kirsch has covered this extensivly on his substack. Or maybe it was Dr. Naomi Wolf, or Dr. Tenpenny. One of those, for sure.
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