Pink Floyd fans left unimpressed after Roger Waters ‘tells audience to f** off’ during ‘awkward’ London show. (Come for Dark Side of Moon and he reads emails for 60 minutes)

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[xp38]

I’ve been to a few concerts where something leftist has been dropped. Usually ruins the show for me. Nothing like this though. I would probably walk out these days but I’m no longer going to concerts much.

[DeathBeforeDishonor1]

How can you have any puddin' if you dont eat your meat.

Roger Waters accused of using antisemitic language by Pink Floyd producer

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I used to just ignore their politics and still do if they don't shove it in my face. But I went to a concert in my mid-twenties and the artist decided to give us the benefit of his opinion of the US and especially the Midwest.

I have no idea how long it lasted because after about five minutes I did something I never had done before and walked out and went to the ticket box and asked for a refund.

There was a line.

[xp38]

I grew up concert wise during the punk era where there certainly were a few left wing groups like the Clash etc but also a few that were counter counter culture and hated the left wing politics of the hippies before them. I’ll never forget a small punk show set up by an anti nuke group and had a bunch of local punk bands performing. Well one group called The Forgotten Rebels got on stage and started ranting about how they loved nuclear energy and more than likely the show was being powered by a rather large nuke plant just outside of town. After the show the organizers said they should have vetted the bands better. They just assumed everyone agreed with them. It was a great laugh for me as a yute. :)

[dfwgator]

Johnny Rotten is pretty much a conservative now.

[dangus]

I LOVE that picture. It’s even funnier if you’ve seen them interacting in other places, like The Von Trapped family singers.

[dangus]

Compare her to her father c. Ummagumma. The resemblance is striking; he just had a bit more of a neanderthal brow. (No insult meant; there’s a picture of a young neanderthal that I could pass off to my own parents as being a picture of me.)

[Rastus]

“Something like the last line of the couplet was ‘ ‘cause Morry is a f***ing Jew’. It was my first inclination that there may be some antisemitism under the surface,” Ezrin, 74, said in the documentary.

What was your first clue, Bob?

[dangus]

*eyeroll* You’re showing off your ignorance. If they’re not to your taste, that’s understandable. But I’ve seen classical music professors stunned at how perfectly they use even the most exotic compositional techniques and chord structures. And David Gilmour is widely regarded as one of the greatest guitarist of all time... despite avoiding showy riffs; practically every list from every critic and every fan group places him among the very top.

Also: after watching their FORMER bandmate, Syd Barret, lose his mind to drugs, the band was largely tee-totalers, ANTI-drug. (Not quite: Roger Waters mixed pot with his tobacco; go figure that he’s the messed up one now.) Their most famous work, The Wall, is, among other themes, about the horrors of drug abuse. Their third most famous work, Shine On You Crazy Diamond, is a 25-minute lament over the loss of the Syd’s musical potential.

[Tom Tetroxide]

Go to a Brit Floyd concert instead. You can see their stuff on Youtube that will give you an idea how well they cover Pink Floyd songs.

[FLNittany]

Is this the guy that listened to Crime of the Century, then wrote the wall? That guy?

[Revel]

Waters turned out to be a full fledged leftie. I have no desire to go to one of his concerts.

[dangus]

Sad that you let Waters turn you off to their music. Animals and The Final Cut are pretty unsufferable, Waters-dominated music. Gilmour probably leans left, although his brand of social-justice really does jive with Jesus’: he believes in compassion for the poor, but he doesn’t prescribe doing it through government. The Gilmour-led Pink Floyd was fairly anti-partisan. (Dogs of War was a poor, miserable exception.) The most purely Gilmour album is “The Division Bell,” referring to the bell which makes British parliament members break to their own side of the aisle. It features songs such as “Keep Talking,” “A Great Day for Freedom,” “Lost for Words,” and “High Hopes.” The big weakness is that Gilmour doesn’t have the knack for melody that Waters had; the melody tends to fall into almost a cadence, with musical lines matching up with lyrical lines. My preferred Gilmour album is A Momentary Lapse of Reason, which is almost the antithesis of Waters-dominated The Final Cut.

[rlmorel]

I get all that, but...I just can’t listen to it the same way anymore. I tried, but...it just doesn’t tweak me now.

I still try occasionally. The first CD I ever bought, when they began coming out and the list of available titles was less than half a page was...Dark Side of The Moon.

So I have a bunch of their albums, and I do try them.

[xp38]

Indeed

[algore]

“If you’re still buying tickets to hear Roger Waters perform live in 2023, you should’ve expected this as part of the show.”

THIS

which is why I am going to see Geoff Tate on the Mindcrime tour

A much better concept album.

https://www.geofftate.com/full-tour-list/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxCiraEPnOY&ab_channel=METALMOSHERROCKANDHEAVY

[dangus]

Funny... I always thought of the similar theme between The Logical Song and Another Brick in the Wall... but it also fit in with Harry Potter, Dead Poets’ Society, etc., so I never took it as a rip-off, but there are certainly musical similarities between School and Another Brick, such as the syncopated guitar late in the second minute of School. Then again, there seem to be places where School echoes Echoes. Uh... I mean sounds like Pink Floyd’s “Echoes.”

[FLNittany]

As soon as you hear the children shrieking at the playground on School, well...

[HIDEK6]

I’ve only walked out of one concert.

UNCG was presenting a production of La Traviata just after I had moved to Greensboro in 1982.

The Overture began, I was thrilled by the familiar melodies. Then a strange, foreign sound emanated from the chorus.

By God, they were singing “The Traveler,” not La Traviata.

I checked my ticket. No mention of singing the thing in English.

Naively, I complained to the Box Office. I felt ripped off because I had not paid to hear some poorly translated English version of one of the most loved operas composed by Western Man.

I walked out before the Overture ended.

The UNCG theater department stinks out loud. I’ve listened to a rehearsal or six over the intervening 40+ years, and they remain amateurish and infantile.

[dennisw]

His bass playing is rather amatuerish.Gilmour did most of the classic lines in the studio.
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https://www.guitarworld.com/news/did-david-gilmour-play-half-of-pink-floyds-basslines

When Pink Floyd recorded 1987’s A Momentary Lapse of Reason, it was following an acrimonious split with founding bass guitar player and songwriter Roger Waters. In Waters’ place, singer and guitarist David Gilmour drafted 20-something bassist Guy Pratt, who, at that time, was best known for playing with David Bowie and Robert Palmer.

In a new interview with Rolling Stone, Pratt, who went on to fill the bass slot on every subsequent Floyd album and tour, as well as for the majority of Gilmour’s solo work, details his audition for Floyd – which, amazingly, did not include him actually playing the bass.

As he recalls, “Singing Run Like Hell was my audition. I actually turned up after a really big night. I was in terrible shape and was like, ‘I’ve fuckin’ blown it.’ But it was actually because I was so battered that I sang it fantastically. If I was rested, I’d probably have been way too self-conscious.

“David asked me to go back for a second audition and he was like, ‘Okay, sing it again.’ I was like, ‘Why? I’ve done it once.’ Even though I was terrified, I was coming off as cocky. David was like, ‘Fuck this guy. I’ll risk him.’

He continued, “I never actually played bass at the auditions. All I did was sing Run Like Hell. I don’t know what that says about what David thinks about the complexity of Pink Floyd bass playing. He was just like, ‘I know you can play the bass.’”

Pratt went on to say that he never felt like he was replacing Waters, primarily because, according to him, Waters didn’t play much bass on Pink Floyd records.

“David played half the bass on those records and I never thought of Roger as a bass player,” Pratt said. “He was this sort of grand conceptualist.

“I used to think it was funny when people said it as a compliment, ‘You’re as good a bass player as Roger Waters.’ It was like, ‘Well, thanks. I think I’d rather write The Wall.’”