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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How does an allegedly 1st world military, one with top shelf intelligence, get invaded by people on dirt bikes and Toyota pickup trucks while taking away Israeli hostages in golf carts!


12 posted on 10/07/2023 12:57:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

They got caught napping. Isral8 Deep State was busy opposing Netenyahu.


17 posted on 10/07/2023 12:59:01 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: dragnet2
How does an allegedly 1st world military, one with top shelf intelligence, get invaded by people on dirt bikes and Toyota pickup trucks while taking away Israeli hostages in golf carts!

The same way the United States does. Enemies within. Sloth. Lethargy.

25 posted on 10/07/2023 1:02:18 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: dragnet2

That question did occur to me also.


55 posted on 10/07/2023 1:17:35 PM PDT by odawg
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To: dragnet2

You would think they would have been able to see Hamas gathering to attack.


87 posted on 10/07/2023 1:34:24 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (.)
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To: dragnet2

Just like where US is now.


129 posted on 10/07/2023 1:59:46 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Biden put a Palestinian in charge of National Security. Also a TDS sufferer who aided in Trump’s impeachment. Perhaps start with him.


130 posted on 10/07/2023 2:00:39 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: dragnet2

“How does an allegedly 1st world military, one with top shelf intelligence, get invaded by people on dirt bikes and Toyota pickup trucks while taking away Israeli hostages in golf carts!”

I think that question answers itself. For those in Rio Linda: It is obvious Israel does not have a 1st world military. Their intelligence didn’t pick up on the massive arms movements?


131 posted on 10/07/2023 2:00:46 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: dragnet2; Eleutheria5

[How does an allegedly 1st world military, one with top shelf intelligence, get invaded by people on dirt bikes and Toyota pickup trucks while taking away Israeli hostages in golf carts!]


You know how the Secret Service is mostly responsible just for one guy, but needs hundreds of people to protect him at events that are in locations pre-selected for security purposes? The average Israeli civilian doesn’t have a single bodyguard. It takes masses of troops to be on alert all the time to prevent this type of attack.

During Yom Kippur in 1973, the Syrians and Egyptians massed on Israel’s borders, drilled back and forth endlessly. The two countries had 20 times Israel’s population. They could afford to do this forever. Israel’s draftees had day jobs. If they were on duty at the border permanently, Israel’s economy would collapse.

The right thing to do would have been to issue a warning, then smash those formations if they did not back off. In 1967, the Egyptians and Syrians had similarly massed permanently on Israel’s borders. Israel destroyed their air forces, then smashed their border troop concentrations.

But in 1973, Kissinger told Israel that if it attacked the looming Arab armies on its borders, not a single bullet would be sent to Israel. So the Israelis stood down and, after an initial period of matching the Arab troop concentrations, sent their draftees back to their day jobs. That’s when the Arabs invaded and came within shouting distance of a second Holocaust.

The incident is likely similar. The problem is that Israel can’t go in and kill or capture tens of thousands of armed Palestinians without provocation. With this attack, it can, but even this has a very short time limit. The clock is ticking, and Israel has weeks, not months, to re-establish deterrence.

Meanwhile, Egypt and Jordan are being pressured by public opinion to make another attempt at Israel. Another blanket party might be in the offing for Israel, once again involving combined Arab armies. This kind of thing is why countries in the old days either butchered the men and married the women or required the conquered to submit/convert or die. So long as they remained separate and irredeemably hostile, they remained an existential threat.


223 posted on 10/07/2023 3:18:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: dragnet2

Is this attack on Israel a repeat of the Arab Spring? The MO is similiar.
On January 29, 2021 President Biden names ex-Obama aide Robert Malley as his envoy to Iran. Iranian President Hassan Rouhani was happy with the pro Iranian envoy. Mr. Malley’s job was to restart the Iran Nuclear deal. Mr.Malley hired some pro Iranian staffers.
About 2 1/2 years ( June 2023) into his gig Mr. Malley’s security clearance is revoked and the FBI is investigating him for mishandling classified information.
Fast forward to today, Hamas the Iranian backed terrorists attack Israel from the West Bank in a well planned attack.
So the question is what classified information did mr. Malley provide the Iranians? Info on Israel? Joe Biden, Antony Blinken, the entire State Department, and the FBI knew. Joe Biden then released millions of dollars to Iran. Joe said the money would be used for humanitarian purposes. Hassan Rouhani, after receiving the $$$$$$ said he will use the money in whatever way he wants. War!!


248 posted on 10/07/2023 4:19:23 PM PDT by Yolanda (Jussie Smollett hoax )
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To: dragnet2

Those that defends everything, defends nothing. Who said that?


276 posted on 10/07/2023 7:00:32 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: dragnet2

Those that defends everything, defends nothing. Who said that?


277 posted on 10/07/2023 7:00:39 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: dragnet2

Intelligence is only good if you have the sources.

It can never be perfect.


286 posted on 10/08/2023 4:36:10 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: dragnet2

I am shocked by this—Israeli Intelligence is supposedly top notch, far reaching, brutal and almost sinister in its efficiency. How did they not know that a “nature festival”, considering its location and likely attendees (shades of Woodstock) would be a big, fat, blaring, neon, honking sitting duck? How???


299 posted on 10/08/2023 8:31:48 AM PDT by cabbagesNkings
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