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Putin’s Next Target: U.S. Support for Ukraine, Officials Say
NYT via Yahoo ^ | October 2nd, 2023 | Julian E. Barnes

Posted on 10/02/2023 7:52:15 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: Cronos
Foreigners can now sign-up to fight in the Ukrainian army – here’s how…

Link here.

61 posted on 10/03/2023 5:57:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: PGR88

Plus this country has become unrecognizable from what it once was.

What the hell does the US stand for anymore? Freedom? Yeah, right!


62 posted on 10/03/2023 5:58:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Cronos

Just think - a Europe occupied by Russia would be more religious, possibly less socialist, have no illegal immigration and WAY less “woke”. There would be some up side. Maybe not enough to justify Russia doing that but still.....


63 posted on 10/03/2023 6:00:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

” a Europe occupied by Russia would be more religious, possibly less socialist, have no illegal immigration and WAY less “woke”. There would be some up side”

You shoulld move there. Seriously. But I’m guessing you don’t even have a passport and haven’t ventured outside your town in 20 years.

Yeah, you’d Love Russia. Smaller GDP than Texas but plenty of mouths to feed on 12K a year.

You’d fit right in:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4186569/posts


64 posted on 10/03/2023 6:16:12 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: BobL
Good, you don't want to send money to Russia - and Putin's cause is not just.

Neither do you want US money spent in ways that don't benefit the USA.

Supporting Ukraine against Putin's aggression benefits the USA -

1. Historically, just as it was in the USA's best interest to support the UK over Germany in 1939-1941.

2. By showing that military conquests are not tolerated - that helps American interests around the world.

3. Sending outdated, replaced weaponry that the USA would have to spend money to destroy and instead can be effectively used

4. Demonstrating the effectiveness of America's weaponry - setting up further sales

5. Making America's enemies further afraid.

That's all wins

65 posted on 10/03/2023 6:22:28 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: dforest

Au contraire - you are parroting Biden and the leftists by supporting Putin in his war of aggression.

Why do you support the New World Order of Xi and Putin and be anti-America?


66 posted on 10/03/2023 6:23:26 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: central_va
Russia is not "more religious" -

And Russia's next generation is even less


67 posted on 10/03/2023 6:27:35 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: elenvee; Justa
elenvee Exactly like the world we already have, and have had for quite some time.

Rot - have you even looked at the reduction in wars?

There have been few to NO wars of conquest 1946 to 2023 - subsiding from 1946 and virtually none from 1973 to 1991 (Iraq attempted conquest of Kuwait) until Putin's invasions

Compare this to the period from the end of the Napoleonic wars to 1900 --> chaos

Wars of military conquest lead to more deaths, more misery and for you lower incomes.

By showing Putin that this is not acceptable, this stops other would-be conquerors - by allowing it, you allow Azerbaijan and other conquerors to say "he did, so why can't I?"

What winning means for Ukraine? - it means simply that they are not under the Kremlin's thumb.

68 posted on 10/03/2023 6:39:47 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: hardspunned

You’re right. I should have added that.


69 posted on 10/03/2023 7:02:43 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: dforest

Hey, it’s 2023. Everything is suspected hyperbole or BS.


70 posted on 10/03/2023 7:04:31 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Cronos

“Good, you don’t want to send money to Russia”

...and you’ll NEVER talk me into it.


71 posted on 10/03/2023 7:38:11 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: Cronos
Long before he turned his attention to such international celebrations, Mr. Putin oversaw the resurrection of the Russian Orthodox Church, including the reconstruction of some 23,000 churches that had been destroyed or fallen into disuse. The Church on the Blood is not included in that count, since it's a completely new house of worship, completed in 2003.

Link here.

72 posted on 10/03/2023 7:50:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Justa

There would be some up side. Maybe not enough to justify Russia doing that but still....


73 posted on 10/03/2023 8:02:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: BobL

you are sending money to russia if you argue for condoning Putin’s invasion and his attempt to create a New World order


74 posted on 10/03/2023 8:18:53 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos

“you are sending money to russia if you argue for condoning Putin’s invasion and his attempt to create a New World order”

That’s a stretch...you feeling ok today?

As to “Creating a New World Order”, you might want to do some research on what the Globalists are at work doing. If anything, Russia is one of the few developed countries trying to hold on to Old World Order.


75 posted on 10/03/2023 8:23:51 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: BobL

Not a stretch — are YOU feeling ok?

If you condone Putin’s invasion, then you are in effect sending money to Putin - as his expansionism goes on to threaten the USA.

Putin and Xi are globalists who want to set up the New World Order.


76 posted on 10/03/2023 8:36:12 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos

“If you condone Putin’s invasion, then you are in effect sending money to Putin”

You’re not feeling ok, it seems.

“Putin and Xi are globalists who want to set up the New World Order.”

You guys only claim such because you guys want to stand on their necks, as you do with Germany where we can blow up their pipeline and not hear a peep of complaint from them. But sorry, Russia and China will CONTINUE on their own paths as INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES and the attempts by you guys to bring them into the Globalist-Run New World Order has FAILED.

And, finally, where were you Globalists 30 years ago when our military was TWICE its size and China was 1/10th of its economy? Oh, yea, you guys were CASHING IN on China, so all was fine. Now it’s too late.


77 posted on 10/03/2023 8:45:01 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: Cronos
"Current state of war is declared up to August 18, 2023."

That's come and gone. Guess they need more money.

78 posted on 10/03/2023 11:05:33 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Cronos
"The USA is the sole superpower capable of projecting force well beyond its shores."

We are not the policemen of the world, nor should we be. If you're such a proponent of this war, why not go volunteer to protect a country you think is more important than this one.

The U.S. hasn't won a war since WWII. When you have the government that creats restrictive rules of engagement for our forces, along with putting lawyers in battle zones to make sure the actual people who do the fighting, don't offend our enemies while not being allowed to do the actual job they were hired to do, this country lost the ability to win any war by any means, ever again.

This country is being invaded from the southern border by God knows who. Your rights are being taken away more each day, fair elections are a thing of the past, and people's lives are being destroyed from within by commies and their Republican collaborators, and you're worried about some po-dunk country almost 6,000 miles away, that is smaller than the State of Texas. WTF??

79 posted on 10/03/2023 11:24:24 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
The U.S. hasn't won a war since WWII.

Grenada?

80 posted on 10/03/2023 11:25:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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