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US Cluster ATACMS Could Be on Ukraine Battlefields 'Next Week': Ex-Adviser
Newsweek ^ | Sept. 25, 2023 | David Brennan

Posted on 09/25/2023 9:21:44 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

Long-awaited approval for DPICM rockets with ranges to just over 100 miles, Rice told Newsweek on Monday, appears imminent, as the White House edges closer to finally lifting its block on supplying the long-range MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile System—known as the ATACMS—to Kyiv...

"Getting approval this week for HIMARS DPICM will be a game changer," Rice said. "And with no training and change needed, it will likely be on the battlefield next week, making a huge difference. When those rockets launch, they break the sound barrier. To me, that's the sound of freedom."...

Rice has been working with U.S. lawmakers and Pentagon officials for several months, pushing for the munitions upgrades he previously told Newsweek could "win the war" for Kyiv, by enabling Ukrainian forces to devastate Russian command posts, logistics hubs and supply routes in the occupied "land corridor" of southern Ukraine...

President Joe Biden appears poised to green light ATACMS transfers following his meeting with President Volodymyr Zelensky at last week's United Nations General Assembly in New York. What version of the weapon and how many rockets will be provided remains unclear, as does the timeline for delivery.

Rice believes the ATACMS M39 rocket with a range of just over 100 miles, plus shorter-range M26 and M26A1 rockets—all armed with cluster munitions—could serve as potent weapons for the Ukrainian military and steppingstones to the longest-range rocket with the unitary explosive warhead...

"Giving them the 20-, 28-, and 100-mile range cluster options made a perfect compromise," Rice added. "The three M26, M26A1 and M39 are all 'need to have'" weapons for the Ukrainians, he said. "I believe they will choose M26, M26A1 and M39 as a compromise for the 190-mile ATACMS."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Ukraine
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Fighting back to repel the invading monsters! that's known as "defense"

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DPICM = Dual-Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions

"Rice said that American cluster munition rockets slated for disposal but not yet destroyed can be quickly put into Ukrainian use.

"They are scheduled to be destroyed, so they have a book value of $0," he said. "Actually, the value is negative since the cost of destroying is significant versus shipping to Ukraine. So, the Republicans who don't want to spend on Ukraine can't really argue. It's lethal and it's free."...

1 posted on 09/25/2023 9:21:44 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

There was a report on here a few weeks ago that the Ukrainians are being sent some of the 300,000 munitions that were slated for disposal at the Sierra Army Depot in California.

300,000 weapons.

That’s a lot of dead Russians.


2 posted on 09/25/2023 9:24:31 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: canuck_conservative

Is the term “Ex-Adviser” a Canadian pseudonym for Pentagram flack?


3 posted on 09/25/2023 9:26:15 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: canuck_conservative

At some point, I expect Putin to use a nuke.

And everyone will say what a bad man he is.
And the US will be very upset.

But I don’t see how the US would be justified in responding in a strong way. We are not at war — are we? The Ukraine fight isn’t a NATO fight. If we see a nuke go off and just jump in, then it is we who are attacking Russia.

If we do nothing (as I think we should) then the precedent has been set — nukes can be used on the battlefield (and I think that’s bad).

Biden is getting us into a situation which is a no-win situation for the US. It didn’t need to be this way. We shouldn’t be involved in Ukraine.


4 posted on 09/25/2023 9:29:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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To: JonPreston

A trainload of ‘Ukrainian’ troops got a taste of Russian cluster munitions in the last day or so, so it seems Russia has an answer for the Neocons.


5 posted on 09/25/2023 9:29:18 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: canuck_conservative

“Getting approval this week for HIMARS DPICM will be a game changer,” Rice said. “And with no training and change needed, it will likely be on the battlefield next week, making a huge difference. When those rockets launch, they break the sound barrier. To me, that’s the sound of freedom.”...
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Wow… the latest of a long series of “game changers”. The PACE OF ESCALATION is accelerating. You can almost feel the fear that the neocon/globalist puppet masters are suffering from. They must fear that their entire UKRAINE PROJECT is close to unraveling,


6 posted on 09/25/2023 9:29:25 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: House Atreides
Well, yes. As the president says:


7 posted on 09/25/2023 9:31:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: MeganC

“ That’s a lot of dead Russians.”
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The thought of maimed and dead Russians/Ukrainians must trigger explosive wet dreams in your soul. That’s a lot of blood lust to bear.


8 posted on 09/25/2023 9:31:55 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: House Atreides

Seeing invaders getting slaughtered by the people they were slaughtering is indeed very satisfying.

Call it schadenfreude or karma. Either way.


9 posted on 09/25/2023 9:35:11 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: House Atreides
maimed and dead Russians/Ukrainians

like you care about dead Ukrainians

but, it all could have been avoided if Putin hadn't started this war by illegally invading a sovereign country in Feb. 2022

Modern Russia was started by a smart giant named Peter ... will it now be brought down by a stupid KGB dwarf?


10 posted on 09/25/2023 9:36:21 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: ClearCase_guy

....lol, with all due respect, you must be very young. We’ve been “at war” with the Russians, or their former political unit the USSR, all my life. And, I’m OLD.

We were at war with the bastards in the Berlin Airlift, we were at war with them in Korea, we were at war with them in Vietnam, we were at war with them in Cuba, we were at war with them in Kosovo and we are at war with them now in Ukraine, and we recently were in an actual shooting at each other war with them in Syria.... and I’m sure I missed a few “wars” with the Rooskies.

In nearly all of those wars, Russian communist leaders have threatened us with nukes. So, threatening us with nukes in the Ukraine war is, minimally, nothing new.


11 posted on 09/25/2023 9:49:25 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: canuck_conservative

We’ve lost the high ground now. Anyone can now use them and say the American’s used them first.


12 posted on 09/25/2023 9:52:03 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: JonPreston

It’s kind of neat how Biden gives the Neocons a relative handful of missiles so that the Russians can learn how to jam them, as they did with the GPS-controlled HIMARS.


13 posted on 09/25/2023 9:53:09 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Minor note on history… the Soviet Union and communism in Russia collapsed in 1989. Just sayin’.


14 posted on 09/25/2023 9:54:34 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: canuck_conservative

And why is it, if we are so completely supportive of the ukes, that we are slowly parcelling out these weapons, too few, too late and after huge Uke casualties? Its as if they want this to grind on forever. Thoughts?


15 posted on 09/25/2023 9:55:16 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (w)
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To: canuck_conservative

The bombing of the invader’s military headquarters has only just begun. Get after it Ukes!


16 posted on 09/25/2023 9:55:38 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: McGruff

except Russia used them first, last fall

along with White Phosphorus, which Ukraine HASN’T used yet

so we’ve still “got the high ground” on that one


17 posted on 09/25/2023 9:55:41 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative
Picking up a pattern here?

Employ Global Warming scam to justify shut-down of fossil fuel sources...........CHECK

Stop drilling permits and crucify coal users........CHECK

Destroy petroleum Reserves, too............CHECK

Deplete all munitions inventories via surrogate Ukraine Regime............CHECK

End the USA as a free country, and subjugate ALL the gullible youth/parasites/non-productive.............CHECK

Fill the courts with puppets to effect Global Agenda............CHECK

24/7 tell them what you want them to think is true, aka, FAKE NEWS.............CHECK

The list is endless............

18 posted on 09/25/2023 10:06:10 AM PDT by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: ClearCase_guy
A Leopard tank crewed by regular German army Bundeswehr was taken out by the Russians over the weekend. One crew member survived long enough to say the whole crew was from the same unit of the German army. The Leopard tank was destroyed on Russian territory. There is a good argument that NATO is directly attacking Russia with arms and personnel on Russian territory.

It appears Ukraine is leveraging the longer range weapons that can hit Moscow and have been aiming to take Putin out. A some point, that is going to be answered. If the US is culpable in financing and providing active support in attacking Moscow, the Russians would have justification for putting weapons on US soil.

19 posted on 09/25/2023 10:18:11 AM PDT by Myrddin
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If this is a “game changer” why did Biden wait till 100k + Ukrainians got killed ?


20 posted on 09/25/2023 10:20:05 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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