Posted on 09/24/2023 9:26:17 AM PDT by Mariner
heads up
“I refuse to be fooled twice. The WMD argument for the war in Iraq was the last straw. We lose every forever war because we have clueless, liars leading. “
+1 000 000 !
It doesn’t do a damn thing to eject Russia from the eastern provinces. It does give Russia an excuse to attack outside Ukraine. All Russia needs to do is link U.S. or NATO forces to action on the ground. You know, I know and Russia knows that Ukrainians are not using advanced weapon systems on their own. Russia started to make that argument in the last few days.
Russia doesn’t not have a pisaant military like we have fought for decades in forever wars. They ain’t the Taliban. Escalating by striking behind Russian lines, makes America the escalator and a target. And yes, Russia has the ability to attack targets in the U.S. People only need the least bit of imagination to understand how that would be done. Put yourself in the shoes of a Russian general and come up with a handful of attack plans for mainland U.S.
Yeah
No grooming
“The soldiers aren’t willing to die anymore, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House.”
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Working their regular hours here. No sign of a slowdown.
“Um, no one under 70 is going to understand this reference”
Maybe the source is Joe Biden himself, or Pelosi, or McConnell.
Seymour Hersh needs to sit down with McCarthy and tell him and Congress that the jig is up. No wonder Trump said that he could settle this fast.
“Where are the embedded reporters giving first hand accounts and videos of the war? That unto itself tell a lot.”
Where they are in every war. Hanging out in the bar of the best and safest hotel in the country. Going up to the roof from time to time to deliver breathless reports.
“This pleasurable read should be taken with a grain of salt until we have another source.”
I’m with you. I don’t believe anything I hear about this war.
It’s gaslighting 24/7 by both sides.
“Someone should tell the commies on that sub.”
You mean the broke-down submarine in dry dock? In the middle of the night? Ten days ago? Nobody was on board, and certainly no commies for at least 30 years. Are you still stuck in the Cold War lieutenant? Did you forget that land war aren’t won at sea?
The Ukes are in their death throes, and taking a few futile pot-shots hoping to provoke Russia didn’t work.
Sad
Perhaps you are just uninformed, and not making up propaganda.
There are literally thousands of videos showing combat operations. Not some embedded reporter, but actual video shot during attacks by the soldiers on both sides. And there are thousands more videos and photographs from civilians who are witnessing the war happen. Some of them are very disturbing, like a video made by a young farm girl who doesn't realize that the incoming rocket is going to kill her father who is out working in the field behind the house.
You can look at thousands of geo-located images showing the exact location where an artillery strike happened, or a group of soldiers were ambushed, or an ATGM struck a vehicle. You can even look at videos of some of those events taken by both sides, like the video of a FPV drone strike on a Russian truck recorded from the FPV drone itself, and a surveillance drone, and the cell phone cameras of the unlucky Russians in the truck.
And there are satellite images.
And there are plenty of embedded reporters.
If you want to understand what is happening all you need to do is look and learn.
One example, Geolocated strikes on a bunker and an armored vehicle
The Ruble has been selling off for months-
it is close to invasion day panic lows after being higher much of the war. This despite higher oil and gas prices.
it is the only objective scoreboard.
Anyone can see it in 10secs ruble usd chart.
Hersh is wrong, Putin can’t afford much more unless EU has a sub arctic winner.
Like in WW1 before the end and the introduction of the tank, the side that attacks with infantry into entrenched enemy positions will suffer such enormous casualties that you risk mutiny. Battle of Verdun style.
This is what happened to Prigozhin's forces in Bakhmut. They took Bakhmut after over six months of frontally attacking deeply entrenched Ukrainian positions, and the loses were so appalling (NATO says five-to-one, Ukraine says eight-to-one, I'll go with five-to-one) that you had an actual mutiny with Prigozhin and some allies on the other side of the Russian border abortively marching on Moscow.
Now it's Ukraine's turn. They need to drive to the Sea of Azov to cut the Russian Army in half. In order to do that they have to attack deeply entrenched Russian positions. And the Russians at least have some sort of air cover, unlike the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians simply will not be able to sustain the casualties. If they try naturally their soldiers will refuse to die for nothing. Of course they'll mutiny. Like the French at Verdun. I'll die for my country but I won't commit suicide for my country.
The appalling Russian losses in the Battle of Bakhmut, as bad as they were, could in any event more readily be sustained by the Russians given their huge advantage in men and material. The Ukrainians simply can't withstand that, IMHO.
So, it looks to me like we've reached a culmination in the fighting. I mean for the entire war. Russia managed to take and hold a deep land bridge to Crimea, which was always one of the minimum goals. They wanted more, but they can't win more, I think that's been proven. Without that land corridor in depth they'd be wholly reliant on the Kerch bridge, which the Ukrainians have demonstrated they can reach out an touch nearly at will.
At this point the peace treaty is obvious - Russia keeps the land bridge and Ukraine joins NATO. Absolutely repugnant to both sides but it's the judgement of the battlefield, IMHO.
All parties to this conflict can go on with this war for years longer losing billions more dollars and suffering tens of thousands of more casualties in the process and in the end we'll all still be at the same position we are now. And all the while continuing to risk a direct Russia-Nato fight, which would risk civilization itself.
For all of our sakes, I hope they choose peace.
Someone should tell the German Tanker Crews fighting for Ukraine before they are all kilt too!
I’m 73 and remember my younger Sis and I, in the 50s, traveling w/ Mom & Dad, and seeing a different set of Burma Shave signage, on almost every road in the Midwest and East Coast. The good ol’ days. LOL.
It ain’t over by a damned site. As long as Biden and his ilk can keep the lie going and continue to soak the US citizens so they can keep the laundered cash train going, it will go on and on and on.
Doesn’t matter. The money-laundering operation must go on. It’s the law.
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