Posted on 09/16/2023 1:25:35 AM PDT by thegagline
American Bully XL dogs are to be banned in the UK by the end of the year, the country's Prime Minster Rishi Sunak has announced.
It comes after a man in England died following what Mr Sunak described as "another suspected XL bully attack" on Thursday. It was the latest in a series of deadly incidents.
*** The XL is the largest of four types of American Bully: standard, pocket, classic and XL.
Strong enough to overpower an adult, the American bully XL can weigh more than nine stone (60kg).
American Bullies are said to have originated in the US in the late 1980s, when American Pit Bull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers were crossed.
*** American Bullies have been involved in several high-profile attacks in the UK. The most recent suspected attack happened in Walsall, in England's West Midlands region. Following the man's death, Mr Sunak announced his decision to seek a ban on the breed.
*** Under the UK's Dangerous Dogs Act, which prohibits any dog that is "dangerously out of control", it is against the law to own the following breeds:
Pit Bull Terrier Japanese Tosa Dogo Argentinos Fila Brazileiro
Dogs that share physical characteristics to the banned breeds - such as cross breeds - are also banned.
*** The police or local council dog wardens can take away the dog and keep it, even if it is not acting dangerously and no complaint has been made.
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But Cane Corsos and Kangals are ok? Not smart. The carriers are making a potentially very costly mistake just naming specific breeds. It would be a lot safer for them to specify weight limits if their intent is to ban some dogs and allow others.
Kangals are not okay. No airline would ship mine. He was a GREAT dog.
I cannot say with Chows, Pit Bulls or the others, but the breeds I have experience with are all very protective and will attack any threat. But all are great family dogs.
You probably made it consistently clear to those dogs, that you, or another family member was the Alpha Dog.
You were leader of the pack, not the ever watchful dogs.
I have heard Malinous (sp) are that way too.
Alpha dog has been discounted.
The author himself said he was wrong.
http://www.kathysdao.com/articles/forget-about-being-alpha-2/
Myth 1: Wild wolves form hierarchical packs in which individuals vie for dominance.
Myth 2: Dogs, close relatives of wolves, must also form packs in which individuals vie for dominance.
Myth 3: Dogs incorporate humans into their view of pack hierarchies.
If you’re interested in learning more, check out this fascinating book: Dogs: A New Understanding of Canine Origin, Behavior, and Evolution, 2001, by Ray & Lorna Coppinger, University of Chicago Press]
A reasonable list IMO.
https://www.rover.com/blog/alpha-dog-meaning/
The researchers who popularized the term “alpha” have even rejected their initial theories, acknowledging that it’s misleading when applied to both wolves and dogs. And unfortunately, training dogs using this dominance-based method often results in fear-based aggression, traumatic experiences — and ultimately — can lead to a completely broken relationship between dogs and their owners.
We now know that a pack of dogs won’t be trying to dominate each other, nor their owners. Dogs have a wide range of ways to communicate with each other (and us, if we pay attention!) including body position, facial expressions, and tail carriage. As science helps us learn more about how our dogs communicate, and how they try to feel secure, safe, and relaxed, we can use these findings as we work towards more effective ways of training and living alongside our dogs — no alpha required.
The more protective a dog is the more of a risk it can be to someone else. Then add deadly muscle and jaw power and you have yourself an irresponsible weapon.
I've seen packs of dogs working, that statement is nonsense.
King cobra snakes can be cuddly pets. For some odd reason people think they’re dangerous just like fighting dogs.
“We now know that a pack of dogs won’t be trying to dominate each other, nor their owners.”
“I’ve seen packs of dogs working, that statement is nonsense.”
A brace of dogs is not a pack, but 3... can be. My sister gets the occasional 3pack around her Tennessee farm. Rural drop offs are very common, and when a 3pack shows up around the goats the hunt is on. Beef are fairly safe, but goats, sheep and yard birds are targeted routinely. Farm dogs end up mangled unless they’re deployed in groups and even then it’s just a coin toss.
The most effective remedy is sniping, but it’s a time consuming practice away from the chores. Rifles on hand to neutralize a roamer when spotted, is not uncommon.
If you’re looking to rescue, the most obvious places are local trash dumpster station sites. Or around rural grocery stores. Some of my sisters neighbors breed dogs but they will not sell dogs to anyone who lives in Tennessee because of the drop off problem that occurs all over that state.
“The insurance carriers for my rental properties would not provide coverage if any of these breeds were present...”
That’s not uncommon. 20 years ago I was talking to a young person who had a aggressive breed and the only way he could keep it was to have it behind a sufficient fence and on a chain plus his rates were raised to mitigate. That was 20 years ago, and that’s 20 years of people negligently not reporting or not following Insurance protocols so.. I guess now they just flat out do not insure.
I wonder if liability insurance could cover something like that or if the liability insurance companies are also not including dogs in their policies as well.
Right after college a roommate had a wolf / malamute. 50/50. Never even heard even a growl towards a human. Did pretty good with other dogs also. But leave it home alone and it would go nuts. This dog was an escape artist. One time he jumped up on the tool bench, went through the basement window well glass only to find himself in the fenced off patio. No problem, dig a hole under the fence. He returned 5 days later. Every pound in the area knew him by name.
At my local county animal control shelter, 90% of the strays/drop-offs up for sale are pitt/pitt mix. 5% are other aggressive dogs...cane corso, malinois, etc. And I’m talking 9-10 pages that you scroll thru. That’s gotta tell you something. The last 5% are dogs that someone like myself would consider adopting.
The American XL makes up 1% of the UK’s pet population and is responsible for 70% of its dog attacks, including several deaths... Banning them sounds reasonable enough.
A more docile solution... Make the muzzling of dogs mandatory while they are in public places. If they’re properly muzzled then they can’t bite.
Gee, they forgot to include Pit Bulls in that ban.
“...the country’s Prime Minster Rishi Sunak..” Rishi Sunak does not sound like a good English name.
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