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Airbus Wins Largest Commercial Aircraft Order In History With IndiGo’s 500-Plane Order
Forbes ^ | 19 Jun 23 | Molly Bohannon

Posted on 06/20/2023 6:08:48 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

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To: SamAdams76

Prior to CT they fly over my house in south central NH coming from Europe. Typically I see them going in a south westerly direction heading towards NYC, DC and elsewhere.


21 posted on 06/20/2023 6:43:11 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Erik Latranyi

The question is that how long after receiving them will they all smell like curry?


22 posted on 06/20/2023 6:44:39 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: McCarthysGhost

“Something tells me that Airbus doesn’t do all of that affirmative action/DEI hiring. Boeing on the other hand...”

The bottom line with these requirements is that US companies are indirectly TAXED by having to carry non-productive people and have to work that into the prices of their products. In this case, that took us out of the running.


23 posted on 06/20/2023 6:53:37 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Erik Latranyi

Way to go, Joe.....Way to go.


24 posted on 06/20/2023 6:54:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BobL

The 737 Max is not competitive with the A320 NEO series.

Boeing is focused on wideboy planes for the future, not single aisle aircraft.

Boeing has ceded the single-aisle market to Airbus.


25 posted on 06/20/2023 6:58:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“The 737 Max is not competitive with the A320 NEO series.”

Apparently so, but why? Why didn’t Boeing have the resources available to design a new plane that could compete with the NEO? How is Boeing spending their money compared to Airbus? For example, does Europe have a bunch of substandard universities graduating people with near-useless STEM degrees, as the US does, particularly in the South...people that large companies are then forced to hire, due to government requirements?

You beat up a horse enough, you eventually cannot ride it, or something like that.


26 posted on 06/20/2023 7:03:42 AM PDT by BobL
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To: nwrep

Who would ever get on an airplane with a name sounding like Boing.


27 posted on 06/20/2023 7:05:47 AM PDT by pas
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To: Erik Latranyi

Boeing has a hole in its product range. Its airliners are either too small or too big for the regional single aisle market. The A-320 series fits that niche nicely.

CC


28 posted on 06/20/2023 7:16:05 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Vaquero

Multiple crashes and hundreds killed due to software errors will do that to a company.


29 posted on 06/20/2023 7:22:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: BobL
Apparently so, but why?

Boeing made the mistake that the Max would preclude the need for newly certified pilots. This was key to retain Southwest Airlines as a customer (all B737 fleet).

But the Max is not as efficient and the way they implemented the MCAS system (which killed hundreds) without telling pilots, has put a pox on Boeing single aisle aircraft.

It was bad leadership, bad product, bad engineering.

Had Boeing gone down the 787 path of a carbon fiber fuselage and modular capacity, they would have filled a competitive need against Airbus.

It is almost like Airbus has given Boeing the widebody business and Boeing has given Airbus the single aisle business.

30 posted on 06/20/2023 7:32:36 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: pas

What a ridiculous comment.

Boeing was the greatest aircraft company. No one would make a comment like that except maybe when it was brand new. You can think what you want now, but we’re talking 70 years of phenomenal success.

Airbus is a socialist globalist “company” that has had good stuff, and failures. That A380 bloat bus being a great example of how stupid and short-sighted that socialist alliance can be.


31 posted on 06/20/2023 7:35:44 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: rdcbn1
Airbus piloting is more akin to autopilot management and manipulation than flying an airplane.

Myth.

As an 18,000 hour Boeing (B737) and Airbus (A320, A330, A350) captain and check airman, I can assure you that flying an Airbus is absolutely flying the airplane. Use of autopilot and auto thrust is the same on Boeing and Airbus.

BTW, highly automated and lower workload makes better pilots, not worse. Airlines are safer today because of better training and better automation.
32 posted on 06/20/2023 7:36:08 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: Erik Latranyi

Meanwhile, in other news...

“Air India Finalizes Order for Up to 290 Boeing Single-Aisle and Widebody Jets”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/air-india-finalizes-order-290-140100637.html?.tsrc=rss


33 posted on 06/20/2023 7:36:58 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: chajin

That’s, “Mumbai”, to you, colonizer!


34 posted on 06/20/2023 7:37:09 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“bringing the total number of Airbus aircraft IndiGo has ordered to 1,330”

You would think any airline would diversify their fleet in case a plane has an accident that forces every similar plane to be grounded... like the 737max.


35 posted on 06/20/2023 7:41:44 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Erik Latranyi
But the Max is not as efficient and the way they implemented the MCAS system (which killed hundreds) without telling pilots, has put a pox on Boeing single aisle aircraft. It was bad leadership, bad product, bad engineering.

Spot on. Boeing was a great company that believed its own press, and then lied to its customers. They backed themselves into a corner in the 1990s with their criticism of Airbus' automation methodology - and then when Boeing decided to implement a similar automation system later they had to lie about it to avoid appearing hypocritical.

The B777 is one of the best wide bodies ever designed - but in an attempt to beat Airbus to the punch (A350), they rushed the B787 to market. Only now is the B787 living up to its hype, and doing well mainly because it is smaller than the A350.
36 posted on 06/20/2023 7:43:03 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: woodbutcher1963

I had the very same thought.

Air New Guinea smelled like, well, I can’t describe it really. It was awful though. The front of the cabin was stained with beetle nut juice though and what passed for first or civilized class was in the back.


37 posted on 06/20/2023 8:13:31 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

You have never heard that joke before?


38 posted on 06/20/2023 8:49:58 AM PDT by pas
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To: pas

If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going.


39 posted on 06/20/2023 8:50:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: safisoft

Thanks for the input. I personally find it hard to believe that the Boeing flight control systems could be any less capable than the Airbus system. Know a number of pilots who have flown both and the general consensus is that they prefer the Airbus as a work plane because it takes care of so much more stuff for them than the Boeing. Automation is a huge positive, especially in busy, complex airspace. The potential problem is that a lot of the current generation of pilots in the civilian training pipeline are becoming more dependent upon automation at the expense of basic airmanship skills.


40 posted on 06/20/2023 9:05:48 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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