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Conservative House Republicans knock debt ceiling deal
The Hill ^ | 5/28/2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 05/29/2023 10:35:01 AM PDT by Javeth

Conservative House Republicans are already voicing criticism about the agreement in principle to cap spending and raise the debt ceiling announced late Saturday as the White House and GOP leadership work to avoid a default on the nation’s debt.

Rep. Dan Bishop (R) tweeted a vomiting emoji to express his thoughts on the proposed deal, noting that RINOS, or Republicans in Name Only, were “congratulating [Speaker Kevin] McCarthy [(R-Calif.)] for getting almost zippo in exchange for $4T debt ceiling hike.”

“Actually, it’s so bad they won’t give a figure for the debt ceiling hike … only that it’s suspended til Q1 2025. Our bill was a year less,” Bishop added.

Additionally, Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) tweeted: “I do not like the ‘deal’ as I understand it from the cheerleading so far… I will have more to follow once I see more details.”

Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.), meanwhile, said that he is “appalled by the debt ceiling surrender” McCarthy outlined Saturday evening.

“The bottom line is that the U.S. will have $35 trillion of debt in January, 2025. That is completely unacceptable,” Buck tweeted.

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KEYWORDS: debtceiling; debtceilingdeal; debtlimit; mccarthy; rinos
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Another useful article on Kevin McCarthy's (R-Rinofornia) latest cave in his position as paid loyal controlled opposition. A complete surrender on the debt limit and budget appropriations to Hakeem, Biden and the billionaire oligarchs paying his bribes in exchange for even more cheap labor crossing the border to replace us (another gift from the Citizen's united ruling). We won't even get to re-negotiate or ask for fiscal responsibility for another 2 years. It's the worst utter GOPe capitulation since that treasonous Gang of Eight immigration bill in 2013 supported by the RINO "dream team" of John McCain, Marco Rubio, Orrin Hatch, John Hoeven, Lindsey Graham back when he was doing his full Grahamnesty thing, Roger Wicker (one of his worst slips), Jeff Flake and of course Paul Ryan.

The House bill with it's demands and policies, which was supposed to be a starting point for negotiations, got shoved aside just entirely. This is even though Kevin came in with all the cards and knowledge the Supreme Court wouldn't led Biden print a 2 trillion dollar coin or some other unilateral trick. It's the Dems who are desperate to avoid a default that's their responsibility for refusing to even look at the House bill, and the default threat was always made up just like Yellen showed us by pushing the date back further, but Kevin just straight gave it up without even a fight.

It's no accident this happened right around the same time as the latest migrant border rush because that's what this is really about. And, there's a direct connect between Kevin McCarthy's pathetic surrender here and the pictures of millions more illegal alien migrants pouring over the border earlier in May when Title 42 got halted. What's obviously absent from any of Kevin's negotiations is anything asking for better border security, that's because the whole point of pushing the US national debt to $35 trillion is to spend even more hundreds of billions of dollars to accomodate the latest flood of illegal cheap labor and their anchor babies, after all they're being brought in as the replacements for real Americans in the heartland. They get free housing in plush hotels, schools, food, health care and all kinds of other bennies while our kids and families are left to starve, go homeless with all this inflation and housing bubbles and overdose on opiates without treatment.

That's the actual long game of who's really driving policy here and funding this, the Dem and RINO billionaires like Soros, Bloomberg, Gates, Iger and the Disney execs, Zuckerberg, Koch, the chiefs of Pfizer, Moderna, Blackrock, Zillow and Blackstone, Big Tech and the other oligarchs who really control government. (Just look at the list of Epstein's buddies and guests on his island to get even more of the names) They hijacked the real conservative movement with their pseudo-intellectual infiltrators in the think tanks in the 1980's and 1990's, and subverted it from the traditional values of the Constitution and Founding Fathers, to instead support the statist capitalism of woke Big Business, mass immigration (for cheap labor), political correctness, internationalist foreign policy and wars abroad for the sake of foreign interests instead of American ones. With of course, tens of thousands of young, healthy working Americans being killed and wounded to make a case for importing even more cheap labor to replace us.

It's been this way ever since the Hart-Cellar immigration act in 1965 and the amnesty they tricked Reagan into signing, but cheap labor and replacement of traditional America wasn't happening fast enough, so they had to speed it up by making sure the GOPe was led by easily sold out, bribable RINO's like McCarthy. Kevin even caved in general on the IRS agents, he claimed to get some token concessions but in reality, if Biden really wanted to get more revenue and reduce the deficit, he could go after the real thieves of the American people and treasury like Soros and the other oligarchs with a few dozen agents top. But instead Biden wanted thousands more, because they won't be going after Soros, Gates, Bloomberg or the Dem and RINO donors, they'll be going after traditional Americans in the heartland and their families and small businesses. Just like Obama did with Lois Lerner's petty tyrants going after families and small businesses with Tea Party connection and other political enemies. Those millions of illegals flooding over the border each year won't pay for themselves after all, and they fully intend to force us to pay for our replacements. And as a bonus, besides the cheap labor, the oligarchs soon get to rip apart the Constitution and swamp our even our basic rights to bear arms and be safe in our homes, importing the 3rd world to overwhelm us with sheer numbers.

Kevin's been fully paid off, so he's just fine with that and he after all is the latest RINO shill to dance to that tune. We just got back from our latest import-export trip and visiting our kids and relatives, most of them now expats in ancestral countries in Europe (where they have real traditional conservative alternatives to the mainstream parties when they start to drift), or South Brazil and South America, but every time we come back it's the same thing all over again. Another GOPe back-stabber in power, another betrayal of conservative America when we need real leadership most. Same treacherous playbook even if it's a different name, and Kevin sure didn't disappoint here.

1 posted on 05/29/2023 10:35:01 AM PDT by Javeth
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To: Javeth
Conservative House Republicans knock debt ceiling deal

All five of them?

2 posted on 05/29/2023 10:37:14 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You Don't Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows)
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To: Javeth
Republicans did not lower the debt when they had house and senate and President. Why would anyone think they would do it when they have only Congress. Uniparty. With few exceptions.
3 posted on 05/29/2023 10:41:34 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Javeth

Should have passed a continuing resolution for 3 months.


4 posted on 05/29/2023 10:41:48 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Javeth

The GOOB KY Cowboys let the Dung Beetle Shove it to them again.


5 posted on 05/29/2023 10:42:20 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (JaySix - The attack that shook the foundations of Commie Liberal "democrazy". -The Far Left "media".)
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To: All

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This has some recurring themes.

Dems did nothing, avoided planning, and Joe left early for the Beach. The House GOP actually passed a bill.

McCarthy looked like he was working for Jersey Joey, and reporting his progress back to the big guy.

Like all the Spending Bills and Judges, Republicans working to save Joe’s agenda.


6 posted on 05/29/2023 10:48:22 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: Javeth

And the border remain open and welcoming........spit


7 posted on 05/29/2023 10:48:30 AM PDT by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: Jim Noble

The joke is on us.

There is a majority in support of what’s going on bought and paid for by the big money that buys our politics.

Wall Street wants this *hit.

Fakeservatives and Fakegressives R’s and D’s who ultimately take the lead of the Business Roundtable, Chamber of Commerce, Davos and George Soros.

No wonder Fetterman want to the psych word his brain somehow got the message his “Progressive” ideas are not what flies in Washington DC only what keeps business moving is acceptable it can dressed up as “Progressive” but Liberal Capitalism has to win in the end.


8 posted on 05/29/2023 10:51:21 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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How do you think the Bromance is going to affect bringing Justice to Joe’s family business?



They fully plan on re-electing Joe Biden.



9 posted on 05/29/2023 10:51:35 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: Javeth
Conservative House Republicans knock debt ceiling deal

Knock it....that's one step up from a nudge

They need to go medieval on it.

10 posted on 05/29/2023 10:55:03 AM PDT by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

> Republicans did not lower the debt when they had house and senate and President. <

Bingo. The years 2017 and 2018 were golden years. The GOP had it all. But as far as spending went, it was business as usual. Borrow more, spend more. Even Trump (whom I admire) did not veto a single major spending bill. Shame on him for that.

As you noted, it’s the Uniparty vs. the rest of us. Where Trump fits in, I’m not sure. But one thing is for sure. We are driving right off of a deficit cliff. Our children and our grandchildren will suffer greatly.

But no one in DC cares. After all, their pensions are secure, and indexed for inflation.


11 posted on 05/29/2023 11:00:01 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Bingo. The years 2017 and 2018 were golden years. The GOP had it all. But as far as spending went, it was business as usual. Borrow more, spend more.

Because that's what the voters want!

12 posted on 05/29/2023 11:01:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Javeth

If this deal goes through, McCarthy must be removed as speaker. All republicans voting for this without removing, at minimum, the funding for the 87k new domestic terrorist soldiers to be used against Americans must be voted out of office and branded a traitor.


13 posted on 05/29/2023 11:33:31 AM PDT by Boomer (The biden regime / identity politics is a clear and present threat to this constitutional republic.)
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Whoever thought up the term Surrender Monkey should get a Cash Bonus.

Never has a term been so fitting.

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14 posted on 05/29/2023 11:36:13 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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He promised Joe he would get it done for him while he was at the Beach getting Treatment.




15 posted on 05/29/2023 11:40:39 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: AnthonySoprano

Surrender Monkey McCarthy. That he is.


16 posted on 05/29/2023 11:41:34 AM PDT by Javeth
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To: TornadoAlley3

To every single DUMBASS that tried defending Milquetoast McCarthy even before and up to this clusterf### getting announced:

Told you so! Caved BIGLY!!!


17 posted on 05/29/2023 11:41:57 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Nextrush

Yes exactly this, the Uniparty ultimately gets it’s orders from the Davos crowd and Chamber of Commerce, they put on a pretence of opposition and policy difference but ultimately there’s no question who’s really calling their shots, and they’re fully in league with each other. The RINO’s will try to put on a show of being cultural-warriors on frivolous stupidity that has very little effect on the broader swamping out of traditional America, while leaving the heartland to be preyed upon by both Big Government and Big Business plutocrats working in collusion. That was the job of the neocon and neoliberal pseudo-conservative intellectuals who infiltrated the think tanks in the 1980’s and 1990’s. Their job was to trick policy-makers and the conservative media into thinking it was “conservative” to defend the crooks in Big Business, Big Tech, Big Academia, Big Health and Big Government who were fleecing real Americans blind, while distracting actual conservative efforts with things like the war in Iraq, all while our own borders were left undefended.

The real oligarchs in charge of our policies include everyone from companies like Pfizer and Moderna that force vaccines on us to Zuckerberg’s companies that spy on us everywhere, to the corrupt real estate cartels like Blackrock and Blackstone that fuel the housing bubble and force us into overpriced rentals unable to afford homes, to Disney and it’s mass promotion of wokeness, the health insurance companies that deny us care we paid for and force us into bankruptcy from hospital costs and bills while giving illegals free healthcare. They pretend to be in opposition to each other with some in the “Democrat” and some in the “Republican” camp. But in reality they’re all in league with each other to rob the American people any way they can so a few elite billionaires get even richer, while our communities collapse and our families are forced into homelessness and poverty. Then they bring in millions of illegals and H1B indentured servants for even cheaper labor and higher profits, all the while making the housing bubbles and inflation even worse.

Big Business was never our friend anymore than Big Government or Big Academia is, but they duped too many leaders in the 1980’s into following their lead and hijacked the real conservatism the Founders started, that was very suspicious of multi-national corporations. The Founding Fathers made sure there was real capitalism, supported actual entrepreneurs starting from the ground up, that Mom and Pop stores could thrive and serve the communities. That’s not what businesses to today, they use Citizen’s united to just bribe politicians for special subsidies and taxpayer dollars to support their buybacks and boondoggles. And of course the tax collectors never go after the billionaires who are actually stealing trillions together from the American nation and people, notice how Lois Lerner and Obama’s petty tyrants never went after Soros, Gates, Bloomberg or the other plutocrats doing the real theft, all their targets were families and small businesses with Tea Party associations standing up to the swamp thieves doing the real stealing. It’s crony and robber capitalism, and it’s true currency is cheap labor, to be paid at our expense.


18 posted on 05/29/2023 12:06:39 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: Leaning Right

That’s what’s so frustrating about this, even when we have all the cards and advantages they just get squandered and do nothing. Not only was the debt ceiling also raised without budget balancing in 2017 and 2018, like you said those were golden years, but even basic things like fighting the invasion of illegals and stopping the H1B “American replacements” visa weren’t done. Even Ted Cruz had been pushing for a massive increase in H1B visas to kick Americans to the curb, until he got his clock cleaned for such open RINO shilling.

I still think Trump was and is sincere about fighting these swamp thieves, but he was taking on a whole deep state conglomerate, and just didn’t have enough experience or knowledge in his first term to know how to work the system to bring the crooks down. That’s why the oligarchs tolerated Trump in his first term but they were determined to do everything, including exaggerating the plandemic to wreck the economy and rigging the 2020 election to make sure Biden took the reigns, they knew Trump had learned their weak points and how better to fight them at that point.

And a lot of the frustration about the missed opportunities in 2017 and 2018 is that Trump had so much trouble getting allies and advisers who would support MAGA and not back-stab him for their own ambitions. Some of this was his own fault for not having good judgement in character for his Cabinet and advisors, some of the betrayals were hard to anticipate. It was probably evident early on that Bill Barr, Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, Marco Rubio and of course Ron Desantis were back-stabbers already with the knives out, other cases it was maybe not so clear. Another thing he appears to have learned a significant amount from. And some of the more reliable supporters of traditional conservatism, even if flawed—Jeff Sessions comes to mind—were back-stabbed and tricked into being removed, by the same sort of rumors the crooked Roman Senators used to remove good, trusted advisors, then go replace them with corrupt enemies of the people.

And right now we’re seeing it again with McCarthy. He has all the cards and advantages going into these negotiations. And yet he’s just squandering them without a fight. It’s no accident and he’s clearly taking orders from someone without the interests of the American heartland in mind, on that not any doubt.


19 posted on 05/29/2023 12:23:01 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: dfwgator

> Because that’s what the voters want! <

A gentle correction, please. It’s what the voters are told that they want. If the debt ceiling is not increased, old folks won’t get their Social Security checks! They will starve to death! And the military won’t be funded! We will be conquered by North Korea!

Too bad that there’s no push-back for all these lies. Not from the GOPe, and not from the mainstream media. I’d like to say more, but I’ve got to work on reducing my carbon footprint. The media tells me that’s critical. And they wouldn’t lie about that, would they?


20 posted on 05/29/2023 12:39:13 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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