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Biden: Zelensky Gave ‘Flat Assurance’ American-Made Fighter Jets Won’t Be Used to Attack Russian Mainland
Breitbart ^ | 05/21/2023 | Kurt Zindulka

Posted on 05/21/2023 8:15:40 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

Tommy Flanagan: That’s the ticket.


21 posted on 05/21/2023 9:05:36 AM PDT by moviefan8 (Cowboying is an art without an audience.)
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To: desertsolitaire
If not the most modern ones, why not?

While many of the U.S.'s weapons platforms incorporate their most advanced technology, other nations do not always get access to that technology. The reason it is taking so long to get Abrams tanks to Ukraine is because that technology is being stripped from the units.

22 posted on 05/21/2023 9:09:59 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Biden refuses to give them to him.


23 posted on 05/21/2023 9:11:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Jeff Chandler

If F16 fighter jets are used in Ukraine in the near future the pilots will be from NATO not Ukraine. The people servicing and repairing the jets will be from NATO not Ukraine. The addition of the F16 will not change the outcome of the war. It could escalate the war but not change it.


24 posted on 05/21/2023 9:13:36 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: tlozo

You are making the wrong enemy. They have the oil. Oil and gas are everything.

The US has supported the Saudis for decades despite their own array of abuses. No moral outrage. The US has invaded Syria with zero invitation — that being the next location post Libya Russia refused to allow through the UN Security Council.

They said no more regime change UN resolutions and they meant it — and exactly what US interests are there in Syria, anyway. Russia has troops there. Invited.

There are no white and black hats. You will be very hard pressed to find wars in history won by anyone other than the white hats — who wrote the history books.

Iraq had demanded US troops be gone for years now. We continue an occupying presence.


25 posted on 05/21/2023 9:25:55 AM PDT by Owen
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yeah, didn’t the Israeli’s promise not to use F-16s we sold them as offensive weapons? Then they right away used them to take out an Iranian Nike facility. 😆 Not that it was a bad thing…


26 posted on 05/21/2023 9:27:28 AM PDT by cld51860 (We’re doomed.)
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To: Owen

“Oil is the real reason to oppose Russia.”

Good write-up, but it’s not quite the reason to oppose Russia, it’s the reason that THEY, the Neocons, oppose Russia.

What they fear, more than anything, is a world where the Western countries are stuck heading into Third World status due to their energy (and now also beef) insanity, while Russia leads the rest of the world to prosperity, by supplying them with cheap, reliable, and plentiful oil, gas, coal, and other resources.

And, to the Neocons running our government, preventing the above is worth World War 3, if it comes to that, at least based on their behavior so far.


27 posted on 05/21/2023 9:27:37 AM PDT by BobL
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Sure Joey whatever you say


28 posted on 05/21/2023 9:39:06 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Jeff Chandler

Do you believe they will arrive in time and in sufficient numbers to make a positive difference to the Ukes? If no, why are we pretending to help in this manner? Part of this big picture is missing from public discussion.


29 posted on 05/21/2023 9:41:31 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: desertsolitaire

Yeah, right. Anybody who believes this will also believe that Obiden got 81 million votes.


30 posted on 05/21/2023 9:42:29 AM PDT by Howie66 (Let's Go Brandon!!)
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To: Howie66

Is it even plausible that Ukraine could stop or stalemate the Russian invasion Without getting and using weapons to hit the Russian mainland back?


31 posted on 05/21/2023 9:46:22 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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Do you believe they will arrive in time and in sufficient numbers to make a positive difference to the Ukes?

I don't know.

32 posted on 05/21/2023 10:00:06 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Who is a bigger liar, Zelensky or Biden?


33 posted on 05/21/2023 10:10:16 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: alternatives?

this is escalation. I hope you neoCON war cheerleaders are prepared to send you grandkids off to die in Ukraine in a war whos’ sole purpose is to keep Ukraine free for the Biden family to continue grifting US aid.


34 posted on 05/21/2023 10:15:53 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: ChicagoConservative27

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35 posted on 05/21/2023 11:01:23 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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Biden: Zelensky Gave ‘Flat Assurance’ American-Made Fighter Jets Won’t Be Used to Attack Russian Mainland

This is so dumb. A guarantee like this cannot be made. What if Russia declares Ukraine the Russian Mainland (which I believe they are doing)?

36 posted on 05/21/2023 11:06:46 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Things can get out of hand. Like they did when Hillary gave shoulder fired missiles to Libyan rebels, leading to deaths of Americans.


37 posted on 05/21/2023 11:14:04 AM PDT by syriacus (VP Biden was informed of the ongoing attempt to frame Trump. POTUS Biden MUST step down.)
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And, with US agreement- allowing Russia (no longer the Soviet Union since 1989) to get Ukrainian nukes that were Russia’s, and... allowing the new Russia to be on the Security Council of the UN along with allowing the Chi-Coms to sit on same. Any one Security Council member can veto the votes of all the rest. THE USA allowed this!

That is really WHY. That and the need to prop up NATO for a new purpose along with the Nazi dream of a German led EU. THE USA ALLOWED THAT! Think of it. The USA could have and did not STOP any of the Russian so called incursions— because they did not want to. Interesting,no?


38 posted on 05/21/2023 11:45:55 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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You are making the wrong enemy. They have the oil. Oil and gas are everything....The US has invaded Syria with zero invitation

Right, Russia has 4.8% of the worlds oil reserve. Okay

Ah, the old we invaded bs. US does not invade in order to annex territory unlike Russia in Georgia and Ukraine. See the difference?

Countries That Have The Largest Oil Reserves In The World

1 Venezuela 299,953,000,000 18.2%

2 Saudi Arabia 266,578,000,000 16.2%

3 Canada 170,863,000,000 10.4%

4 Iran 157,530,000,000 9.5%

5 Iraq 143,069,000,000 8.7%

6 Kuwait 101,500,000,000 6.1%

7 United Arab Emirates 97,800,000,000 5.9%

8 Russia 80,000,000,000 4.8%

https://www.worldometers.info/oil/oil-reserves-by-country/

39 posted on 05/21/2023 12:57:05 PM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: frogjerk
What if Russia declares Ukraine the Russian Mainland (which I believe they are doing)?

Nobody in the West cares what Russia declares.

40 posted on 05/21/2023 1:14:07 PM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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