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1 posted on 05/20/2023 7:42:04 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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1/6 General Wesley Clark “We’re going to take-out 7 countries in 5 years.”

“...starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, Somalia, Sudan, then back to Iran.”

Looks like the pace on this has slowed considerably, but someone has their talons in the establishment, be it establishment neocons or establishment neoliberals.

https://youtu.be/6Knt3rKTqCk

2/6 Madeleine Albright justifies the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children as “worth it”

https://youtu.be/KP1OAD9jSaI


2 posted on 05/20/2023 7:43:19 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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3/6 Bush gaffe: Former president calls Iraq invasion ‘unjustified’ in slip-up

“And Russia...and the decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq... I mean of Ukraine.”

https://youtu.be/ZEg6Ht2pNH0

4/6 Whether in Ukraine or Sudan, Death Follows Victoria Nuland Wherever She Goes

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4148667/posts


3 posted on 05/20/2023 7:44:08 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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5/6 UN lies about US military occupation of Syria, reporter calls out Ukraine hypocrisy

https://youtu.be/wl4_2AqUORs

6/6 Somalia’s president thanks Biden as U.S. troops return
5/30/22

“...his [Buden’s] predecessor, Donald Trump, removed them in 2020...”

https://youtu.be/ogq46EJnd00


4 posted on 05/20/2023 7:45:04 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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NATO expansion took place from 1991 on, then there was the invasion of Iraq where NATO was involved under WMD lies. Are people against that or are they Bush Bot Neocons?

NATO illegally expanded to the point of breaking its defensive charter against Libya on unproven allegations that Gaddafi was going to attack 10k of his own people.

3rd, all moral arguments against Russia have to also apply to NATO/US or one is amoral or immoral.

4th, before all of this, it was said to me here:

“It is not NATO that is seeking to expand into Ukraine, but Ukraine that is seeking to join NATO.”

My reply: “That’s a cop out answer as mo one forces NATO to accept anyone and accepting them is expansionism.”

Replies to me: 1.) No one tells them who they can’t accept either, Russia doesn’t rule the world, not even Europe.

2.) NATO did not accept Ukraine membership.

My reply: Then others will say no one tells Russia what to do, and thus people saying “No one tells them who they can’t accept either, Russia doesn’t rule the world, not even Europe” are escalating things when we need both Russia to withdraw and NATO to go back to its original 1949 size.

Anything else furthers aggression from both sides leading to more bloodshed, possibly WW3.

We can’t have anyone expanding anymore, the days of empires are over.


5 posted on 05/20/2023 7:45:44 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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up to 4.5 million now!

I said from the start of the war, nuke fallujah at the start of the war all those years ago (just after they hung our soldiers bodies from the bridge and all the terrorists were holded up there)

Many called me nuts, but I argued then and I attest now that doing that then would of SAVED millions of lives and trillions of dollars.

Because the terrorists would of known we meant business, and would of immediately lined up in lines 100 miles long to surrender.

Instead in order to save a few hundred thousand lives in one city all these years later 4.5 million have died.


6 posted on 05/20/2023 7:47:58 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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DOD and State are now, “The department of Defense Contractors.”


7 posted on 05/20/2023 7:51:18 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (THE FBI INTERFERED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!)
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The Second Congo War (1998-2003), or the Great African War, killed 5.4 million people alone. Because it happened in Africa, nobody paid attention to it. The Borgen Project ranks it the 12th deadliest war in history.

https://borgenproject.org/top-12-deadliest-wars-in-history/

10 posted on 05/20/2023 7:55:37 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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I have come 180 degrees on 9/11.

I now have no doubt it was an inside job, and the controlled implosion of building seven is absolute proof.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/did-you-know-third-building-fell-911-rhett-micheletti


16 posted on 05/20/2023 8:24:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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--- "more than 40 military interventions in at least 22 countries without congressional approval...."

Whatever one's stance and political bent may be, the "more than 40 military interventions" are being considered by non-Americans (i.e. 96 percent of the world's population) and if and/or when they conclude that our United States has been as "interventionist" as it surely seems to have been (CIA-backed coups to color revolutions and all), we will not be the heroes in history. I pray we can settle in to a new role, without "interventions" that go so consistently boom and bang, to the delight of the war department which likes to call itself the DoD.

From Eisenhower's farewell: "Throughout America's adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep the peace; to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity among people and among nations. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people. Any failure traceable to arrogance, or our lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice would inflict upon us grievous hurt both at home and abroad."

My personal fear for these United States is that we have been "grievously hurt both at home and abroad" by these "more than 40 military interventions in at least 22 countries without congressional approval." Ike's warning was dismissed, and the clown show has only escalated in the Obama-Biden third term, politics as usual and what Durham's report has stated in detail, edemic corruption.

17 posted on 05/20/2023 8:41:04 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Not to mention all the hatred against the US we have sewed around the world. It will go on for generations. Started with the The Gulf War.


18 posted on 05/20/2023 8:54:51 AM PDT by consult
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Thanks GWB. 6 trillion for nothing, attacking people who didn’t have anything to do with 9/11


20 posted on 05/20/2023 9:00:31 AM PDT by Aeneas2112 (YOU are your own first responder)
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Recall Eisenhower’s comments about the military-industrial complex contained in his farewell address:
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex,” “The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”


21 posted on 05/20/2023 9:05:56 AM PDT by FMBass (Que sais Je)
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More then that died in Europe in the first year after ww2. Disease, starvation, displaced people camps, revenge killings, mass deportations.

We think ww2 was a good war because we did not see our cities leveled, our people murdered by our government and our citizens killed by our enemies, our lands invaded.
I just finished teaching Russian Civil War and taking a Great Courses class (16 30min videos plus class discussion) on the history of Eastern Europe. Changed my outlook on all
US foreign policy since 1944.


24 posted on 05/20/2023 12:37:53 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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