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Russia says there's a problem with billions of rupees it has in India that need to be converted
Yahoo ^ | 6th May 2023 | Filip de Mott

Posted on 05/07/2023 9:35:16 PM PDT by Cronos

Russia has billions of rupees sitting in Indian banks but acknowledged there's a problem as it looks for ways to convert that currency.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov noted the widening trade deficit with India, which has been a top buyer of Russian oil since Moscow launched its war on Ukraine last year.

"As for rupees, this is a problem because there are billions of rupees accumulated in accounts at Indian banks and we need to use this money," Lavrov told reporters in India on Friday. "For this, rupees should be converted into other currencies. This is being discussed."

The comments come a day after Reuters reported that Russia and India have suspended negotiations over using rupees for trade between the two countries.

Russia prefers to be paid in Chinese yuan, which has become the most-used foreign currency in Russia. Meanwhile, Moscow has reportedly been hesitant about using the rupee due to exchange-rate volatility.

...Still, Russia and India remain deadlocked in a currency dispute that has also frozen weapons sales between the two countries.

India won't pay Russia in US dollars over concerns that it may face secondary sanctions and won't pay in rubles because of worries about obtaining Russia's currency on global markets at a fair rate, sources told Bloomberg last month.

Meanwhile, Russia won't take Indian rupees because of exchange-rate volatility, the report added. Moscow has also rejected an idea from New Delhi for the Kremlin to invest rupees from arms payments back into Indian capital markets so the currency doesn't pile up.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: americahaters; bricswontwork; exchangerates; globalistpropaganda; usdollarstillrules
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1 posted on 05/07/2023 9:35:16 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Hire Indian veterans to be mercenaries. Pay them in Rupees.

Men of the sub-continent have long shown themselves to be willing and capable warriors. Start with a battalion, and then scale up to brigade size if things ‘clicks’.

Form additional brigades if necessary and field an Indian mercenary division. Manpower alone is not an issue.


2 posted on 05/07/2023 9:46:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Cronos

India and Russia are coming to realize why the entire global economy still needs the greenback.

Everyone wants USD, no one wants rubles or rupees.


3 posted on 05/07/2023 9:47:35 PM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: Cronos
The problems is that Indian banks know the official Russian exchange rates are utter fabrications. They do not want to lose money any more than they are going to. Russia wants their rupees converted back into rubles, India does not want to get cheated. Russia is going to make a deal, just as Russia made deals to keep their oil flowing even at a loss.

It is kind of funny how two of Russia's biggest potential allies and partners, China and India, can come out ahead by passively staying out of Ukraine. Their positions are secure enough they can tell Russia they have to go along with the sanctions, and they are not wrong in this. They have enough leverage in trade with Russia that Russia has to cut deals with them that put Russia at the edge of running at a loss.

4 posted on 05/07/2023 9:55:37 PM PDT by Widget Jr (šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦ Š”Š»Š°Š²Š° Š£ŠŗрŠ°Ń—Š½Ń–! šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦ SlĆ”va UkrayĆ­ni! šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦ ā˜­ No CCCP 2.0 ā˜­)
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To: Renfrew

They also realize if theres no more America, no one will want the USD


5 posted on 05/07/2023 9:57:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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LOL.

Cope.

1/3.) India’s Rupee trade with Russia ‘takes a hit’; Lavrov points out the problem | Watch

“Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov broke silence on reports claiming that his country had halted trade with India in Rupees. Lavrov explained that discussions on the issue are underway and that double conversion charge was the roadblock that traders are experiencing. Earlier, the Modi Govt had rejected reports that Russia had suspended trade with India over Rupee payment. Watch this video for more details. “

https://youtu.be/j8FWCBm4zbE

2/3.) De-dollarization kicks into high gear
By Pepe Escobar (Posted Apr 29, 2023)

“now established that the U.S. dollarā€™s status as a global reserve currency is eroding. When corporate western media begins to attack the multipolar worldā€™s de-dollarization narrative in earnest, you know the panic in Washington has fully set in.

The numbers: the dollar share of global reserves was 73 percent in 2001, 55 percent in 2021, and 47 percent in 2022. The key takeaway is that last year, the dollar share slid 10 times faster than the average in the past two decades.

Now it is no longer far-fetched to project a global dollar share of only 30 percent by the end of 2024, coinciding with the next U.S. presidential election.

The defining momentā€”the actual trigger leading to the Fall of the Hegemonā€”was in February 2022, when over $300 billion in Russian foreign reserves were ā€œfrozenā€ by the collective west, and every other country on the planet began fearing for their own dollar stores abroad. There was some comic relief in this absurd move, though: the EU ā€œcanā€™t findā€ most of it.

Now cue to some current essential developments on the trading front.

Over 70 percent of trade deals between Russia and China now use either the ruble or the yuan, according to Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov.

Russia and India are trading oil in rupees. Less than four weeks ago, Banco Bocom BBM became the first Latin American bank to sign up as a direct participant of the Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS), which is the Chinese alternative to the western-led financial messaging system, SWIFT.

Chinaā€™s CNOOC and Franceā€™s Total signed their first LNG trade in yuan via the Shanghai Petroleum and Natural Gas Exchange.

The deal between Russia and Bangladesh for the construction of the Rooppur nuclear plant will also bypass the U.S. dollar. The first $300 million payment will be in yuan, but Russia will try to switch the next ones to rubles. ...”

https://mronline.org/2023/04/29/de-dollarization-kicks-into-high-gear/


6 posted on 05/07/2023 10:08:05 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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3/3a.) Independent Sentinel
Countries Look to De-Dollarize, Breaking from the ā€œDemons in Davos”
4/2/23

ā€œAccording to Min News, fifty-six countries, including Israel and Japan, want to de-dollarize. ...”

3/3b.) *Fox Business*
Brazil, China strike trade deal agreement to ditch US dollar
3/30/23

“Brazil and China have reportedly struck a deal to ditch the U.S. dollar in favor of their own currencies in trade transactions. ...”

3/3c.) *Nasdaq*
Petrodollar Dusk, Petroyuan Dawn: What Investors Need To Know
4/2/23

“During a three-day state visit, Chinese President Xi Jinping held friendly talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a show of unity, as both countries increasingly seek to position themselves as leaders of what they call a ā€œmultipolar world order,ā€ one that challenges U.S.-centric alliances and agreements.

Among those agreements is the petrodollar, which has been in place for over 50 years.

In case youā€™re wondering, ā€œpetrodollarsā€ are not a real currency. Theyā€™re simply dollars being used to trade oil. Early in the 1970s, the U.S. government provided economic aid to Saudi Arabia, its chief oil-producing rival, in exchange for assurances that Riyadh would price its crude exports exclusively in the U.S. dollar. In 1975, other members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) followed suit, and the petrodollar was born.

This had the immediate effect of strengthening the U.S. dollar. Since countries around the world had to have dollars on hand in order to buy oil (and other key commodities such as gold, also priced in dollars), the greenback became the worldā€™s reserve currency, a status formerly enjoyed by the British pound, French franc and Dutch guilder.

All things must come to an end, however. We may be witnessing the end of the petrodollar as more and more countries, including China and Russia, are agreeing to make settlements in currencies other than the U.S. dollar. ...”

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/petrodollar-dusk-petroyuan-dawn:-what-investors-need-to-know


7 posted on 05/07/2023 10:08:34 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: BenLurkin

I think it is illegal for Indian citizens to become mercenaries. And for Nepalese, only to india or the UK


8 posted on 05/07/2023 10:21:07 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Widget Jr

Russia is running at a loss with them. However the Muscowites still need to move their hydrocarbons


9 posted on 05/07/2023 10:22:22 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Ah, interesting. The Indian government may not be willing to change such a law if doing so implicates it in the Ukraine war.


10 posted on 05/07/2023 10:24:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Renfrew

The dollar remains the reserve currency and everything else is just Monopoly money.


11 posted on 05/07/2023 10:36:33 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: Cronos

None of the BRICS offer a convertible currency.

The EU economy features managed trade, not free trade. So, the euro has limited appeal as an alternative to the US.

Only Japan and UK are open economies could potentially replace the dollar. But each of those countries is much smaller and both have their own fiscal problems.

Believe it or not, but the House-passed Debt Ceiling bill offers a glide path to a sustainable fiscal situation. It would stabilize our financial picture and, furthermore, allow the Fed to ease up on monetary policy. It could save Biden’s presidency and even get him re-elected. So, shhh!!, let’s keep this a secret.


12 posted on 05/08/2023 1:05:23 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: BenLurkin

India’s policy seems to be “we don’t want to do or say anything about this war. We want to make money.”


13 posted on 05/08/2023 1:08:08 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

“Russia has billions of rupees sitting in Indian banks but acknowledged there’s a problem as it looks for ways to convert that currency.”

Russia can convert these Rupees to US Dollars and buy US T-Bills. There is ZERO obstacle to Russia doing this.

81.75 Indian Rupee = One US Dollar (today)


14 posted on 05/08/2023 1:11:17 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Renfrew

Which is why I still am not convinced the dollar is in as dire
a situation as we have been led to believe.

Yes, in theory I understand the logic. I don’t necessarily
disagree with the logic. The problem is, there’s a long
way from logic to the end of the dollar.

China has about eleven billionaires they don’t want to move
their holdings off shore. Creating a situation where China’s
currency is fluid, facilitates these men moving themselves
and their wealth off-shore.

I saw a presentation the other day, it was interesting
to see this guy explain why China may not be as solid an
advocate of their currency becoming fluid as some folks
seem to think it would be.

Time will tell.


15 posted on 05/08/2023 1:32:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: BenLurkin

Highly unlikely.

Indian government is extremely unlikely to approve. And Indian soldiers are already in a highly desired profession. Its a job that many compete for, that very few want to leave, on account of the bennies they get, including retirement. To exchange this for the uncertainty of life as a Russian mercenary is a stretch.

The Indian officer corps is also very “western” generally, on a personal level. This segment of the Indian upper-middle class is extremely well represented in the US and the UK.


16 posted on 05/08/2023 1:57:58 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Cronos

Worthless Indian money. Maybe they should hire of the Indians in America, ship them to Russia. Pay them with rupees. The US would be abetter place if they did.


17 posted on 05/08/2023 2:46:18 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Go Woke, Go Broke. Every Time Trump Says Something, I'm Closer to Anyone But Trump.)
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To: Cronos

Compromise and use Pesos. ;-)


18 posted on 05/08/2023 2:57:58 AM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't. )
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To: DoughtyOne

To win a race you don’t need to be perfect, you just need to be better than the rest of the field.

The USD remains far ahead of the Euro, ruble, bitcoin and any other potential rival.

Failed leftist policies re eroding our lead, but it is still decades before anyone else can catch up.


19 posted on 05/08/2023 4:15:30 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: Cronos
Russia has billions of rupees sitting in Indian banks but acknowledged there's a problem as it looks for ways to convert that currency.

Convert it to what?

20 posted on 05/08/2023 4:32:03 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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