You mean how they have a 60% ethnic Ukrainian majority; how Russia invaded in 2014 under the guise of militias that they armed from among the Russian minority; how the illegal 2014 referenda conducted under Russian military occupation, and which the Russian apologists use to claim that they voted for independence, was only for autonomy within a united Ukraine; how Ukraine actually passed a law granting autonomy in accordance with Minsk II; how Russia reneged on Minsk II by failing to withdraw its forces and handing over the border to Ukraine as required by that agreement? That Donetsk and Luhansk? I am willing to talk about it at any time.