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Trump could be in more danger than you think: When we remember that Trump stands to be tried in New York, we can see the peril he faces
American Thinker ^ | 03/23/2023 | Frank Friday

Posted on 03/23/2023 6:22:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

One of the things I often have to remind people about, including lawyers who should know better, is that each state has its own unique laws and procedures. What is no big deal in most places may be a fiasco in another.

For Donald Trump, the upcoming New York "falsifying business records" charge he may be facing would be laughed out of court almost everywhere, as no money was stolen and no harm to anyone seems to have been done. Unfortunately for him, he is stuck in the Empire State. And as unfair as it sounds, I think Mr. Trump is in some real trouble.

The plan the Manhattan D.A. has is to convict him on a trivial offense, then hope a vindictive judge will throw the book at him. This happens all the time to suspected mafiosi in New York courts, and it may be what's going on here.

Start with the supposed two-year statute of limitations on misdemeanors underlying the prosecution. It is expected that D.A. Bragg's office will overcharge Mr. Trump, with several felonies, in part just to get around the two-year limit. But that may not even be necessary. Unfortunately, as many people are now discovering, the statute of limitations tolls for the time a defendant resides out of New York State, as Mr. Trump has the last six years. So the statute of limitations most likely won't come into play.

Then, thanks to the persistence of organized crime in New York, there has evolved an astonishingly wide theory of misdemeanor "intent to defraud," developed in such organized crime cases as People v. Kase.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alvinbragg; bananarepublic; jury; newyork; trump
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New York prosecutors, in their zeal to convict mobsters, have been able to put real teeth into the laws against business records crimes for years now, which carry substantial penalties.  Thanks to this, the Manhattan D.A. has a road map of how to now get Donald Trump. 

This is also where the Trump Organization convictions for fraud last year will come into play.  These can used by a judge to pile on to Trump himself at sentencing, making him out to be the equivalent of an organized crime boss, to justify a harsh penalty.

I don't think Trump would get the maximum — one year in county jail — but a sixty-day term on Riker's island is possible, depending upon the judge.  Even without a period of incarceration, the conditions of Trump's probation could be onerous.  Just requiring that he remain in New York for a year or two would effectively end his presidential campaign.

1 posted on 03/23/2023 6:22:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Simple...just start finding Dems to indict with a grand jury in red areas. Time to fight fire with fire.


2 posted on 03/23/2023 6:25:24 AM PDT by Codeflier (My voting days are over. Let it burn...give the people what they want good and hard.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The vicious, terroristic left want Trump in confinement just long enough for him to “commit suicide.”


3 posted on 03/23/2023 6:26:02 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: SeekAndFind

that’s what appeals courts are for.

First, I don’t believe Trump will ever be charged for anything. Second, even if he is, I predict hung jury most likely outcome. And even on the off chance he was convicted, the penalty would most likely be a fine. And even then it will be appealed no matter what and eventually overturned.


4 posted on 03/23/2023 6:27:14 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Codeflier
Simple...just start finding Dems to indict with a grand jury in red areas. Time to fight fire with fire.

Matt Walsh made exactly this same recommendation in his show the other day.

I really don't see any other solution. In a real war, the side which stops firing isn't going to be anywhere near a victory.

5 posted on 03/23/2023 6:27:38 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Boris Johnson is still fighting charges over a party he held during Covid.


6 posted on 03/23/2023 6:28:26 AM PDT by Eva
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect that one of the reasons for DeSantis going full Globalist/Neocon yesterday, at least regarding Ukraine, is that he knows Trump is likely to be prevented from running...so he figures he’s the ‘default candidate’ and can now say and do as his money-masters demand.

Bummer for him if true, as he’ll likely never make it on the ballot in November 2024, since the first Primary is still a year away and there are OTHERS, besides Trump, who are willing to stand up to those monsters.


7 posted on 03/23/2023 6:29:34 AM PDT by BobL
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To: SeekAndFind
Unfortunately, as many people are now discovering, the statute of limitations tolls for the time a defendant resides out of New York State, as Mr. Trump has the last six years.

I don't think this is so clear. For 4 of those six years (or was it 7 years) Trump was the President of the United States who was immune to prosecution except thru impeachment and removal which did not happen. There is no case law that I know of that is clear in determining that the timer stopped and then restarted based on the defendant being immune from prosecution for a time as the chief executive of the entire nation.

8 posted on 03/23/2023 6:29:34 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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If he is charged...somewhere...the trial won't begin before the election. DJT’s lawyers will make sure of that. In fact I doubt that the prosecutors in any such case would want that. All they'd want is the mugshot,maybe a photo involving handcuffs and all the Maoist “legal experts” talking about how dangerous he is.
9 posted on 03/23/2023 6:30:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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All they'd want is the mugshot,maybe a photo involving handcuffs

And everyone will be wearing these images on t shirts supporting Trump and a return to American fair jurisprudence

10 posted on 03/23/2023 6:32:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Many certainly will...but not everyone. Remember,there’s 20% of voters who are said to be “independents”.


11 posted on 03/23/2023 6:37:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: Codeflier

> Simple...just start finding Dems to indict with a grand jury in red areas. <

Absolutely, 100% correct. Just be sure those Dems are top shelf. Go after the big boys (and big gals). Biden, Hillary, Harris, etc. It can be done.

The “progressives” are fighting bare-knuckle, and for keeps. The GOP just whines and complains. It’s not hard to see who will win such a contest.


12 posted on 03/23/2023 6:47:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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It's all about getting him out of the 2024 race.

We are down to the desperate measures here.

13 posted on 03/23/2023 6:49:10 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (5,016,040 Truth | 87,429,920 Twitter)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are going to kill him.


14 posted on 03/23/2023 6:58:54 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Leaning Right

Not so easy for the ones you list because it needs to be someone that has had significant activity near red counties. Mark Kelly, Jon Tester, Raphael Warnock, Jon Ossoff might be good targets. It would be enough to get the attention of Democrats at least.


15 posted on 03/23/2023 7:05:13 AM PDT by Codeflier (My voting days are over. Let it burn...give the people what they want good and hard.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is enlightening just to see what extremes these people will go to just to Stop Trump.


16 posted on 03/23/2023 7:07:16 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ve been after him for 7 years. He’s been running circles around them the whole time. One day, the Trump haters are finally going to be forced to grow up and move in to adulthood. Then, they will finally realize how much time out of their lives they wasted chasing him for a bunch of crybaby princesses who wasted a whole day in November 2016 sitting on their asses in Javits Convention Center making goo goo eyes at one another and waiting for Hillary Clintoon to come crashing through the glass ceiling followed closely by her trusty companion, Huma, carrying a Chip Ole! Burrito bowl and her daughter, Chelsea, jogging nearby.


17 posted on 03/23/2023 7:09:30 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Go Brandon! FJB.)
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18 posted on 03/23/2023 7:14:26 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=40%>)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Trump gets to NY jail, does it means he has to pay NY state taxes again?


19 posted on 03/23/2023 7:16:34 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: SeekAndFind

The New York deal ain’t gonna happen. It’s a feignt.

The real skullduggery is going down on DC Federal court.


20 posted on 03/23/2023 7:17:03 AM PDT by OKSooner (Rand for Minority Leader after Mitch is gone for good, if not sooner.)
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