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Wall Street’s most successful hedge fund just politely told the Fed to shut up
Fortune ^ | 3/8/23

Posted on 03/09/2023 2:54:25 AM PST by EBH

If there was one piece of advice the boss of hedge fund Citadel LLC would give to the Federal Reserve, it would be to stop talking so much.

Every time Fed chair Jay Powell opens his mouth to discuss all the progress the central bank has achieved cooling off last year’s red-hot inflation, he may actually just be making his own job harder by confusing investors with different messages.

Citadel founder Ken Griffin, the most successful hedge fund manager on Wall Street last year, urged Powell to stick to just one key talking point so as to anchor inflation expectations best and therefore minimize the collateral damage he is visiting upon the economy.

“If I could tell one thing to the chairman I would tell him to say less,” Griffin told Bloomberg on Tuesday. “The variance of the message over the last couple of weeks has been incredibly counterproductive.”

Ever since the S&P bottomed in October at 3,583 points, the stock market has rallied more than 10% on the belief an all-powerful Fed can claim victory over inflation and pivot to an easing bias that would put a floor beneath equity valuations.

This fear that investors have got ahead of fundamentals has already prompted luminaries like J.P. Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon into warning gains have been premature.

Griffin said the problem Powell faces is that interest rates are simply too blunt an instrument to surgically target bouts of inflationary in parts of the U.S. economy.

Some sectors including the real estate market—responsible for roughly a sixth of overall GDP—react with extreme sensitivity to higher borrowing costs, he explained, while others remain largely unaffected.

Unless the Fed can get ahead of inflation expectations in a meaningful way, he fears Powell will be stuck in a damaging game of catch-up...

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bideneffect; greatreset; hedgefund; thisisthereset
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Indeed, Powell needs to stop acting like the tempest in the tea pot.

Interest rates seem to be the only club Powell has left. If the government won't stop spending, the Fed cannot get things under control. In many ways, the Fed is not the problem at this juncture.

Watching several iterations and anyone notice all those empty cargo ships parked off China's coast? Anyone notice the sub-hunters off the east and Florida coast running man in the middle over those Russian nuke subs? Anyone notice those government drones tracing rail lines around Ohio, Pa, and WV? Yeah, where all these 'accidents' are happening?

Naw...didn't think so.

1 posted on 03/09/2023 2:54:25 AM PST by EBH
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To: EBH

It helps when one finally realizes Powell’s actions are intentional, his design is anything but a healthy US economy or a secure investing environment.


2 posted on 03/09/2023 2:59:23 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

A week ago, I might have agreed with you.

Now? Watching the Geo-political landscape making significant moves over the last week...? My feeling is Powell does not actually know what to do.

China is having real economic problems again. The empty cargo ships moored off their coast is as bad as it was during the height of covid. That warns badly for the global economy and inflation here in the US. It also signals that we, the US consumer, has pulled back on spending. We are not seeing it though in our western world?

Powell does need to quiet down, but investors need to get their faces out of the US economy and start looking around globally.

I have said this several times already, but the only way out of this is war. This is the reset. I am more convinced than ever the WEF was carving up their perceived winnings. Problem is though, it just might not turn out the way they expected.


3 posted on 03/09/2023 3:15:26 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon)
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… but the only way out of this is war.

What exactly is the “this” you are describing?

4 posted on 03/09/2023 3:25:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Skwor
The interest rate set by the Federal Reserve is still pretty low, from a historical standpoint. It just seems high because it was kept artificially low for years just so we could prop up a dysfunctional economy.

These hedge fund guys aren’t being dishonest, but they should come right out and explain what their vested interests are. I think they rely heavily on an investing environment with artificially low interest rates — because a lot of money that is desperate for higher returns ends up being invested in highly speculative crap that is the bread and butter of these hedge funds.

5 posted on 03/09/2023 3:45:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
I'm of the mindset that Powell does a good job of communicating ahead of time the Fed's perspective.

If I had my way there would be no Federal Reserve. Option #2 for me would be that the Fed wouldn't have done so much QE and low interest rates for so long. But that's for another discussion.

From a standpoint of the Fed is what it is and we have to live with it, then I'm pleased with how Powell communicates ahead of time what they're thinking. Before Powell the stock market had ginormous swings when the Fed would make official announcements. With Powell, on the official Fed announcement days the market has relatively mild swings because investors mainly know what the announcement will be.

6 posted on 03/09/2023 3:54:20 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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QUIT (STOP, REFRAIN FROM, CEASE) SPENDING MONEY UNNECESSARILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
7 posted on 03/09/2023 4:08:22 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Well, They always have the good faith and trust in the US government to fall back on. 🤑


8 posted on 03/09/2023 4:15:37 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: EBH

What is Powell supposed to do? The high inflation we have is caused intentionally by government policies that the government refuses to change. Restricting energy supply and increasing energy prices, and deficit spending.

Having highly negative real interests is wrong and bad policy. But, that policy has been in place for 15 years and the markets have inflated as a result benefiting the elites. Powell has raised interest rates to be less negative, but negative they still are. He probably does not want to crush the economy, but also doesn’t want high inflation to continue or even get worse. However, interest rates don’t solve the root inflation problem: government policy.


9 posted on 03/09/2023 4:17:33 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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He has raised rates the fastest in history. He’s in a tough spot, once you bring on higher unemployment, the siren call of more help from the government gets chanted.


10 posted on 03/09/2023 4:45:40 AM PST by Theoria
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Griffin (the billionair rich “F”) can go pound sand!>


11 posted on 03/09/2023 4:57:19 AM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: EBH
"Griffin said the problem Powell faces is that interest rates are simply too blunt an instrument to surgically target bouts of inflationary in parts of the U.S. economy."

Inflation is caused by too many dollars chasing goods & services. Cheap money creates inflation. Cheap money is money borrowed at low interest. Raise interest and you reduce money chasing goods. Mr. Griffin, what are these surgical methods you suggest for reducing inflation? I think what you're really saying is do anything but keep money cheap to keep the market propped up. Sorry! That may help you but it won't reduce inflation!

12 posted on 03/09/2023 5:35:13 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: EBH

ping


13 posted on 03/09/2023 5:38:34 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Theoria

“He has raised rates the fastest in history. He’s in a tough spot, once you bring on higher unemployment, the siren call of more help from the government gets chanted.”

There is v low unemployment due to millions with physical and mental disabilities from vaxxxx / boosters shots. Ed Dowd talks about this all the time. Check him out on Twitter often. I sure do! He has many video interviews out on rumble and y-Tube.

Ed Dowd spent decades on Wall Street, so also talks about economics. His disability numbers come from the insurance companies who keep these stats in general. And also because they are v concerned about paying out more and more every quarter for the disabled who are covered by them


14 posted on 03/09/2023 5:46:36 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what Powell says. He can’t stop Congress from printing money.


15 posted on 03/09/2023 6:16:57 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: EBH

“If the government won’t stop spending, the Fed cannot get things under control. In many ways, the Fed is not the problem at this juncture.”

Well said.


16 posted on 03/09/2023 6:20:32 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: dennisw

Not only messed up, but the thousands and thousands who left work because of forced vaxx protocols, never to work for a company like that ever. Lots of people are simply working under the table, gone gault, etc.


17 posted on 03/09/2023 6:27:33 AM PST by Theoria
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To: rottweiller_inc

“..Well, They always have the good faith and trust in the US government to fall back on. 🤑...”

Yeah. The track record goes back a long, long way and is so exemplary; the Lakota Sioux, the Chiricahua Apache, the Bonus Army, Waco, J6 protestors and a long list of others would wholeheartedly agree. /s
And given today’s political climate, well...it’s probably best to just not go there right now.


18 posted on 03/09/2023 6:29:46 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“QUIT (STOP, REFRAIN FROM, CEASE) SPENDING MONEY UNNECESSARILY!!”

But EVERY politician NEEDS to spend money. There is no option called ‘Unnecessary’

Never has been, in my lifetime.


19 posted on 03/09/2023 8:25:14 AM PST by JackFromTexas (- Not For Hire -)
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To: dennisw

Unemployment rates are also low because we are in a demographic spiral where retirees aren’t being replaced with younger talent.


20 posted on 03/09/2023 8:31:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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