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US military personnel at a European base provide GPS-targeting for Ukrainian rocket systems
The Washington Post ^ | February 9, 2023 | Isabelle Khurshudyan , Dan Lamothe , Shane Harris and Paul Sonne

Posted on 02/09/2023 10:09:00 PM PST by McGruff

KYIV, Ukraine — Ukrainian officials said they require coordinates provided or confirmed by the United States and its allies for the vast majority of strikes using its advanced U.S.-provided rocket systems, a previously undisclosed practice that reveals a deeper and more operationally active role for the Pentagon in the war.

The disclosure, confirmed by three senior Ukrainian officials and a senior U.S. official, comes after months of Kyiv’s forces pounding Russian targets — including headquarters, ammunition depots and barracks — on Ukrainian soil with the U.S.-provided High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, and other similar precision-guided weapons such as the M270 multiple-launch rocket system.

One senior Ukrainian official said Ukrainian forces almost never launch the advanced weapons without specific coordinates provided by U.S. military personnel from a base elsewhere in Europe. Ukrainian officials say this process should give Washington confidence about providing Kyiv with longer-range weapons.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blueandyellowpompoms; danlamothe; gps; inafterthebanjos; isabellekhurshudyan; joewantsawordwar; paulsonne; russia; shaneharri; ukraine; youcanhearthebanjos; zelviswrestleshitler
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1 posted on 02/09/2023 10:09:00 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

If the Russians would leave Ukraine they wouldn’t need to worry about this.


2 posted on 02/09/2023 10:10:57 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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US at war with Russia on behalf of Black Rock, WEF et al. This is obscene and likely unconstitutional.


3 posted on 02/09/2023 10:22:24 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: McGruff

Well this kind of ends the proxy war narrative now.


4 posted on 02/09/2023 10:23:20 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
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To: MeganC

Perhaps Russia knew beforehand what’s unfolding now


5 posted on 02/09/2023 10:23:51 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

I totally agree with you. This is a game changer.


6 posted on 02/09/2023 10:24:18 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

+1


7 posted on 02/09/2023 10:25:18 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: McGruff

Oh that’s not going to play well with Putin

Guess the WaPo hates the Ukrs


8 posted on 02/09/2023 10:34:20 PM PST by Nifster ( EI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: McGruff

Imagine if Russia, or China, was providing technology, intelligence and targeting for some state, like Mexico, to strike targets within the United States.

What would a proportional and just response be?


9 posted on 02/09/2023 10:34:33 PM PST by PGR88 (, )
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To: Gene Eric

And will not end well


10 posted on 02/09/2023 10:34:53 PM PST by Nifster ( EI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: MeganC

If the Kiev tyrants had not been shelling ethnic Russians for 8 years in the Donbas and killing thousands of them, there might not have been a “liberation” effort by Russia to keep ethnic Russians from being murdered in Eastern Ukraine.

Their “crime” was being ethnic Russian and seeking autonomy from the monsters in Kiev.

It is a monstrous LIE Russia’s entry into Ukraine was unprovoked. The U.S. and the West have been provoking Russia for years. Russia made it clear years ago it would not tolerate Ukraine joining NATO and they were even betrayed via the Minsk accords which have now been publicly admitted by Merkel and others were a ruse to buy time for Ukraine to build up a massive military to fight Russia. Ukraine then placed this big army on Russia’s doorstep.

This is not a war to “save the people of Ukraine.” This is a war the U.S. has planned for years to destroy Russia, carve it up and have the West plunder its resources. The slaughter in Ukraine is just an excuse for the West to destroy Russia.

It is transparent the globalists behind this slaughter have no regard for the people of Ukraine nor the people of Western Europe who suffer mightily from sanctions demanded by Washington DC with no regard for Europeans affected.

The Russians will destroy the Ukrainian forces and the late entry of a few tanks from the West will have no affect on the outcome of this conflict. The warmongers of the United States have suckered thousands of Ukrainians to fight and die in this U.S. proxy war Ukraine cannot win.


11 posted on 02/09/2023 10:36:21 PM PST by Gnome1949
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Ukrainian officials said they require coordinates provided or confirmed by the United States and its allies for the vast majority of strikes using its advanced U.S.-provided rocket systems, a previously undisclosed practice that reveals a deeper and more operationally active role for the Pentagon in the war.===

It is a total BS. US and allies do not possess such capability.


12 posted on 02/09/2023 10:38:03 PM PST by nickfrost1
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To: MeganC

None so blind as those who refuse to see.


13 posted on 02/09/2023 10:46:59 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: MeganC

We dm’d. It was a nice and heart to heart exchange. You presented yourself as neither stupid nor a propagandist yet here we are.

I honestly fear for your soul. You are dark and untrue. You seemed rational and nice but this friggin blood-lust. It is downright evil.

I fear for your soul.


14 posted on 02/09/2023 10:50:30 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body... gives me more rights. )
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We’re playing with fire here. Nuclear fire.


15 posted on 02/09/2023 10:51:30 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: PGR88

You mean like if Russia were to provide ICBMs to Cuba?


16 posted on 02/09/2023 10:58:57 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: nickfrost1

The US and it’s allies are fully capable of providing precision GPS coordinates to Ukraine to be programmed into HIMARS or Excalibur, etc.

Easy as pie.


17 posted on 02/09/2023 11:00:33 PM PST by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: PGR88

“Imagine if Russia, or China, was providing technology, intelligence and targeting for some state, like Mexico, to strike targets within the United States.”

We didn’t invade Mexico, you Democrat!
They are invading us.


18 posted on 02/09/2023 11:01:55 PM PST by rellic
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To: PGR88

China is.
Providing fentanyl and ingredients to make fentanyl to cartels, which is smuggled in the US.
Other countries are opening their prisons and mental hospitals and sending them to Mexico to be brought in, along with everyone else.


19 posted on 02/09/2023 11:22:15 PM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: ltc8k6

The US and it’s allies are fully capable of providing precision GPS coordinates to Ukraine to be programmed into HIMARS or Excalibur, etc.

Easy as pie.==

No it is NOT easy.

GPS usage is a PASSIVE system. SO there are only receivers on those missiles. So the coordinates of targets must be inserted into them BEFORE start.

So these coordinates must be known before start. But how they CAN be known? No US asset may fly over the front line or back areas because it will be shot down instantly. SO how? Impossible as I say.


20 posted on 02/09/2023 11:22:47 PM PST by nickfrost1
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