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25 Years Later, Looking for Lessons in the Clinton Scandal
NY Times ^ | 01-21-2023 | Peter Baker

Posted on 01/23/2023 8:51:19 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

WASHINGTON — The story was as tawdry as they come: The president of the United States had been having sex with a former White House intern in the space off the Oval Office and now was being investigated for lying under oath and obstructing justice to cover it up.

The newspaper that landed on doorsteps around Washington that morning, 25 years ago Saturday, kicked off a furor that led to the first presidential impeachment trial in 130 years and transformed politics in the capital as President Bill Clinton battled for survival. A quarter-century later, the lessons are still being debated with each successive scandal.

The current White House imbroglio, while hardly as titillating or politically dangerous, is a case study in what today’s political actors took away from that unseemly-but-can’t-look-away episode. Some Democrats complain that President Biden’s team, now confronting a federal investigation, failed to heed the best practices drawn from the Clinton experience while others insist that it is, in critical ways, following the playbook.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; lessons; scandal; years
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Lesson is don't be a pervert. I remember like it was yesterday when this story broke.
1 posted on 01/23/2023 8:51:19 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Drive By Media gave Slick Willy a pass. Even telling us that cheating on your wife is healthy. Same for lying.


2 posted on 01/23/2023 8:55:11 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We learned the media will cover for a Democrat no matter what. To defend Clinton, the press wrote articles on how powerful men require more sex.


3 posted on 01/23/2023 8:56:38 AM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It needs to be framed as workplace sexual harassment and theft. Of all the female volunteers, she was the only one transitioned to a paying Federal job. We all know the reason. He was using federal dollars to pay or sex.


4 posted on 01/23/2023 9:04:02 AM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Keep your dick in your pants and don’t wank off to 22 year old little girls in a D-cup.


5 posted on 01/23/2023 9:04:04 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Forget "Global Warming", new grants are for "Galaxy Dimming")
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To: ChicagoConservative27; All

NY Times doesn’t want to dig too deeply into what Brandon & Son have been up to - so they’ll rehash other Socialist Democrat ‘crimes of the past’ as a cover.

They don’t CARE about any ‘lessons learned.’ With Socialist Democrats it’s all about what you can get away with, not whether you have any moral standards to live by.

So transparent. So unexpected! *SNORT*


6 posted on 01/23/2023 9:05:05 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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Oral sex went from not being sex, to practically being taught in school. Quite a legacy.


7 posted on 01/23/2023 9:07:25 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Big lesson: Democrats can lie and get away with it. The legacy media backs them up. Call it the “Carville strategy”.


8 posted on 01/23/2023 9:12:01 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I think the more impactful lesson came from the Whitewater Scandal.

Lie. Obfuscate. Drag it out. Make it so complicated people’s eyes glaze over.

Deny Deny Deny.

Then, it becomes “Old News”. And soon...anytime anyone is asked about it, the response is “We’ve been over all this before. There is nothing new. Next question.”


9 posted on 01/23/2023 9:18:10 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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Of all the female volunteers, she was the only one transitioned to a paying Federal job

Really? that surprises me.


10 posted on 01/23/2023 9:19:16 AM PST by Jolla
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To: gundog

Yes, and it was the beginning of the end for the regular folks, people who couldn’t understand the complexities of government, but did understand that moral degradation was normal for powerful men….It took little time for the degradation to trickle down to all citizens….soon it was okay for all, even for schoolchildren. The Clintons have a lot to answer for. The evil they both exposed and perpetrated infected anll aspects of human life. We are bearing their legacy today in all aspects of human life.


11 posted on 01/23/2023 9:24:49 AM PST by gloriabeth (Gloriabeth)
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To: alternatives?

Actually, the push was to get him for lying under oath in a rape trial. He signed a law as president that pattern of behavior can be used as motivation to commit the crime. That is why he had to lie about Miss Lewinski. The sexual assault trial has never been used as to why he had to lie; everyone forgets that is why he had to give a deposition - nothing to do with sex with an intern. He was accused of a violent crime and sex with the intern helped provide the context that was law that he had a history of behaving in this manner - justifying the charge and related evidence to convict if it went to trial. It was Grand Jury deposition


12 posted on 01/23/2023 9:31:40 AM PST by linedrive
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To: ChicagoConservative27

In the early days here we had the Clinton gang under a microscope.

There was one very obscure article that had a photo of the Oval Office with several folks in a meeting there.

There was a document on a nearby table that was the “cheat sheet” to the meeting.

It was a couple of pages long and the photo captured the contents.

It said “Scandals”.

The list included a dozen or so scandals that we knew about—and another couple of dozen that had names we did not know!

The claim that “the” “scandal” was about sex was and is a classic Deep State talking point to divert attention from everything else.

There are still many Clinton scandals that remain totally secret to this today.


13 posted on 01/23/2023 9:32:18 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: popdonnelly

My general sense of Bill Clinton lines up with George Will’s comment - “Bill Clinton was not the worst President we have ever had, but he is the worst person to ever have served as President.”

I know the NYT wants to look back and wonder why we bothered. My take is that Bill Clinton has never gotten what he deserved. On this and many other matters.

And furthermore, Al Gore would have been President in 2001 if only he had had the courage and integrity to have presented Clinton with an ultimatum in 1998 - either you resign or I will.


14 posted on 01/23/2023 9:32:31 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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The story of sex was a coverup to a clinton crime of give missile guidance technology to the chinese
15 posted on 01/23/2023 9:35:06 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

As long as people vote on party lines the president can do anything he wants. And if you have a long enough string of unbroken scandals people just stop caring.


16 posted on 01/23/2023 9:36:23 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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This article is a LIE. clinton gave missile guidance technology to the chinese. This was the crime clinton committed. The was the coverup story the media used to keep the truth from the People


17 posted on 01/23/2023 9:39:52 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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Oral sex went from not being sex, to practically being taught in school. Quite a legacy.

Started when a dipwad little girl asked him; Boxers or briefs?

18 posted on 01/23/2023 3:24:35 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: cgbg
The claim that “the” “scandal” was about sex was and is a classic Deep State talking point to divert attention from everything else.

As Snake head was fond of saying, it is all about sex, sex, sex.

19 posted on 01/23/2023 3:35:48 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Is it not Sexual Harassment? Even though an unpaid intern, she reported up through the chain to Clinton in the Executive Office.


20 posted on 01/23/2023 6:52:47 PM PST by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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