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California's Floods Another Reminder of Failed Water Management Policies. In drought or flood, bad environmental policy is making Californians miserable.
Reason ^ | January 20, 2023 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 01/21/2023 10:05:20 AM PST by karpov

The latest environmentalist fad is to ban gas stoves, with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission now doing a study on their ill effects (and a commissioner saying a ban on their import and manufacture is on the table). The agency's rationale is that such stoves degrade indoor air quality. The pushback has been severe given that any self-respecting cook would rather heat up a frozen dinner in the microwave than pan-fry dinner on an electric burner.

Gas banners have touted studies showing that gas cooking exacerbates asthma—although a properly vented stove hood minimizes the risk. The main push behind this moral panic comes from climate-change worriers, who are intent on reducing the nation's carbon footprint. Some cities already are imposing moratoriums on natural gas.

What does this have to do with today's topic of water policy? One gets a sneaking suspicion that with any resource issue the environmental up-lifters are more interested in disrupting our lifestyles than solving actual environmental issues. The real climate threat comes from developing nations—not high-end gas stoves in suburban American households.

Likewise, some targeted investments could solve the state's water issues—by bolstering our water-storage capabilities, building desalination facilities, recycling water, improving groundwater recharge basins, and promoting water trading. California now faces a budget deficit, but last year we had a $97.5-billion surplus. A small portion could have fixed the problem for decades.

Instead, many California environmentalists prefer water rationing—with the goal of forcing us to use much less water even though we've vastly reduced our per-capita water usage. Conservation is good, but the end goal should be assuring plenty of water for our homes and businesses rather than forcing the public to do penance. Am I the only one who thinks our policymakers want us to suffer?

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1 posted on 01/21/2023 10:05:20 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

So environmental policies that enabled Cali to burn wasn’t enough, the idiots cry about water then do nothing to prepare. Just be good stewards of the earth and sit there shivering in the dark waiting for the end. Those people really think they are smarter than everyone else.


2 posted on 01/21/2023 10:21:25 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: karpov

On rare occasions I get a truly world-changing idea. Here’s my new one: gas stoves should run on hydrogen gas. No soot, no greenhouse gases, and you can use the hydrogen to blow up ballons!


3 posted on 01/21/2023 10:26:53 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: karpov; All

For reasons never really explained a significant segment of the left and especially the so called green left nurture a love of austerity for its own sake. This is not a nw thing,Sir Stafford Cripps, the laborite Treasury Lord deliberately made conditions harsher in post war Britain through a wide variety of hidden taxes on long schedules of manufactured goods as well as insisting on actually expanding the scope of rationing AFTER the end of WW2. Cripps rationale was to increase national savings and discourage expenditure on ‘non essential consumer goods’. In reality, those who knew Cripps Knew that he detested ‘bourgeois consumer consumption’ which he firmly believed corrupted ‘the soul of the working class and the nation’. Cripps never admitted it but his ideal for Britain would have been a sort of Maoist style society with everyone (except those at the top) having to eat in .workers canteens., live in communes, and wear a sort of quasi military uniform of baggy drabness. This temption to force people to lead lives of’virtuous poverty’ seems one of the major fixations of the left. These people seem to wish to hurt people in the name of an unstated ‘good’.


4 posted on 01/21/2023 10:30:15 AM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: karpov

Ya, they need to take down a couple more dams to protect the Delta Smelt.......


5 posted on 01/21/2023 10:35:42 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: karpov

(we need a new fad, how about gun safety training with live fire mandatory for all people age 18 and over.)


6 posted on 01/21/2023 10:48:21 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (When Ashli Babbitt’s video-taped murderer Michael Byrd is indicted, I’ll start paying attention.)
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To: cymbeline

>On rare occasions I get a truly world-changing idea. Here’s my new one: gas stoves should run on hydrogen gas. No soot, no greenhouse gases, and you can use the hydrogen to blow up ballons!

Nice idea but where do you get the hydrogen? Electrolysis takes lots of electricity.


7 posted on 01/21/2023 10:50:04 AM PST by fretzer
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To: karpov

“ One gets a sneaking suspicion that with any resource issue the environmental up-lifters are more interested in disrupting our lifestyles than solving actual environmental issues.”

It’s not a suspicion, it’s an obvious fact.


8 posted on 01/21/2023 10:51:31 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: karpov

I don’t give a damn what negative thing happens to Californians. They continue to vote for Leftists for governor and representatives knowing that their policies will cost them more and reduce their quality of life. They deserve what they vote for. Unfortunately, too many brainless Californians are leaving the state after destroying it with their votes and taking their stupidity and voting to red states and slowly destroying them too.


9 posted on 01/21/2023 11:04:54 AM PST by falcon99 ( )
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To: falcon99

Dominion couldn’t have said it better.


10 posted on 01/21/2023 11:14:06 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: fretzer

“Nice idea but where do you get the hydrogen? Electrolysis takes lots of electricity.”

I was joking but a gas stove requires relatively little gas. Its cost should be minimal. You can get hydrogen in cylinders. It has multiple industrial uses.


11 posted on 01/21/2023 11:15:18 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: karpov

California manages the water right into the Pacific for the fish ,LOL


12 posted on 01/21/2023 11:18:26 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: cymbeline

>You can get hydrogen in cylinders. It has multiple industrial uses.

Of course you can but if you look at the ERoEI (energy returned over energy invested) you’ll see that it’s more efficient just to use the electricity to power the stove directly rather than attempting to obtain hydrogen via electrolysis. Hydrogen isn’t stuffed into bottles for free, it takes lots of energy to free the H2 from the H2O. Hydrogen when used in this context is a means of storage of energy. Unlike natural gas and/or oil/coal, hydrogen is not a fuel source.


13 posted on 01/21/2023 11:26:03 AM PST by fretzer
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To: G Larry

Last ‘inventory count’ I heard about the Delta Smelt==Multiple days—multiple boats & workers == 7 smelt found.


14 posted on 01/21/2023 11:30:25 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: cuz1961

It’s just a coincidence to you that wherever Californians go, leftist hellholes sprout up?


15 posted on 01/21/2023 11:43:36 AM PST by Varda
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To: Varda

Looking for new nests to foul.


16 posted on 01/21/2023 11:43:59 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ridesthemiles
Yes, most all "endangered species" are a fiction of biology lab field work.

for 40 years prof's have had students go into the field to ID "a species unique to that area" and catalog them.

Typically, they are neither a unique species or unique to that area.

They are cataloged for the express purpose of having a database reference to stop development anywhere and everywhere.

Should a landowner seek to contest the claim, good luck proving them wrong.

Ref. Colorado Prebles Mouse. (The first thing you notice is their habitat covers 25% of Colorado)(They finally admitted it is NOT a "unique species")

17 posted on 01/21/2023 12:46:10 PM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: Varda

It’s just a coincidence to you that wherever Californians go, leftist hellholes sprout up?

/\
. irrelevant to my post

How dominion steal denier of you.


18 posted on 01/21/2023 12:49:16 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

You can’t blame Dominion for the stupidity of Californians. Californians were voting that way long before Dominion perfected its cheating machines.


19 posted on 01/21/2023 12:49:39 PM PST by falcon99 ( )
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To: karpov

Environmentalists will truly be the death of America. Just you wait.


20 posted on 01/21/2023 12:55:35 PM PST by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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