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To: mac_truck

Yeah, this is so troublesome. It’s a furnace where innocent conscripts are tossed into like so much chaff on both sides, and the Russians must be making quick work of it, as they’re not changing their strategy at all.

There will be no men to rebuild Ukraine with.


2 posted on 01/20/2023 7:52:27 AM PST by struggle
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To: struggle

The Russians call it a boiler. They encircle the target and literally, and I mean that shell it to dust with constant barrages 24/7. You should see the devastation of some places that used to be cities. They send in the Wagner storm troopers to probe... find out if they have to do it... and if Wagner comes back an says, too well defended. Literal hell rains down on the place till it is dust. When I say dust... I mean dust.


11 posted on 01/20/2023 8:09:39 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body... gives me more rights. )
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To: struggle
There will be no men to rebuild Ukraine with.

Bingo. Its the issue everyone seems to avoid.

Ukraine left the Soviet Union with about 55 million people.

Its last census was 22 years ago, which placed it at 48 million. Being the most corrupt country in Europe, its outward migration for the last 30 years has been 300-500K per year. Ukraine has also has had the lowest birth-rate in Europe.

It lost Crimea, which is about 8 million

It lost another 6-8 million as refugees. Refugees are usually younger people, who have the energy and initiative to handle the change

It lost another 10 million in the provinces Russia Controls.

Rump Ukraine probably has no more than 20 million people remaining. How many young men have been killed? 150K? 200K?

The West kept pushing for it to join NATO. Russia has declared for decades - NATO on Russia's border is an unacceptable threat.

Still, DC neocons kept pushing, and they got the result - Ukraine is destroyed. Ukraine is ALREADY utterly ruined for the next 50 years. It won't even be fit to be a proxy.

17 posted on 01/20/2023 8:20:33 AM PST by PGR88
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To: struggle
There will be no men to rebuild Ukraine with.

Right, in a country pre-invasion of 44 million, hundreds of dead will result in "no men to rebuild Ukraine."

22 posted on 01/20/2023 8:28:33 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: struggle

This crap reminds me of the Viet Nam war body counts.

This week in Viet Nam 211 Americans were killed
3574 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong solders were reported killed.


26 posted on 01/20/2023 9:05:57 AM PST by DaiHuy (I support LGBTQ. (Lets Get Biden to Quit.))
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To: struggle

Yes there will. U.S. soldiers.


70 posted on 01/25/2023 9:56:41 PM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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