Posted on 01/11/2023 11:22:09 AM PST by CFW
Solandra all over again?
Very expensive for any degree of storage, and a solar system without electricity storage is not a viable idea.
The batteries are the bottleneck for solar power. They are greatly more expensive than the panels.
Utility virtue signaling with the rate payers money. The utilities are allowed to recover capital costs. So we consumers pay for them and we get more expensive electricity in return. Good deal for someone - just not the ratepayer. The power company gets to add a few more VP slots to reward their most favorite employees. The solar company get gobs of money for its unreliable product and we get the shaft.
I remember a ‘solar’ company near my office outside of Sacramento, Kalifornia. I would drive by their office/workshop at least twice a day, sometimes much more on days I was out in the field. They strongly advertised State and Federal $$$. About a week after the $$$ ended, there was no trace of the company; no signs, no cars, trucks, vans. It was as if they never existed. Without State and Federal $$$, it would never had existed in the first place. There was/is no ‘market’ for this without taking $$$ from the private sector. All of us paid for the few that bought into this insanity. Just look down the street where you live. Everyone paid for a few to have it. When the solar panels fail, or just need service, will the few visit their neighbors and demand more $$$. The company that, for a while, existed, is not there. Whoever benefited from the State and Federal $$$ is probably in the Bahamas, and the Oval Office
We have only drilled a few miles into the Earth. We already know of many hundred years of oil, coal, and natural gas. Every year, in country after country, we discover more and more huuuuge deposits of hydrocarbons. Germany is dismantling a wind farm because underneath the windmills is a large amount of coal. In the dead of winter, whether or not the wind is blowing, coal can provide direct heat, and electricity.
The Sun provides direct heat in the summer. It can provide some electricity during daylight, as long as clouds stay away. Several times in the past volcanoes have blocked the Sun for 1-2-? years. Even in the dark we can drill for oil and natural gas. Not very long ago Chicago and New York were under a mile of ice. The Great Cold will return. The Earth has been in a pattern of long periods of cold, with shorter periods of warmth. The best questimates are 100,000 years of cold, with 10-15,000 years of warmth. There is nothing we can do to stop the cold, but we can adapt. The more we drill, the more hydrocarbons we find. The deeper we drill, the more we find.
**I used the term ‘questimate’ above on purpose. We humans live such short lives, we do not have exact data on this long-cold/short-warm pattern. Ice core samples let us know that this pattern is a fact. The exact length of the cold and warmth is not known today. It may be that each warm period is not exact.
As we spread out into the cosmos we will use the hydrocarbons on planets, moons and asteroids. The moon Titan orbiting Saturn has oceans of hydrocarbons. In the first Alien movie, the space vehicle Nostromo was depicted towing an enormous refinery. They had mined hydrocarbons on planets and asteroids. Science fiction will become science fact, as long as the Fauci’s and AlGore’s are kept away.
It has been my perception that solar never panned out to be
the great thing they were thought to be before hand.
That may not be true, but I have read things over the years
that brought me to that conclusion.
As the Left tries to state that solar and wind are going to
replace oil and coal, I don’t think that is as sound an
idea as they do.
I agree that solar does provide a fall back position for
individual residences. Individual residence installation
as a rule creates a protection against total grid outages
also.
If we relied more on individual homes to provide their
own energy, we wouldn’t have to build new plants, and it
could be possible for us to par back that concept.
Individual homes with enough energy to pump power back
into the grid at a profit to the homeowner could also be
a way to take a large load off of the conventional power
stations. IMO > that would come the closest to replacing
oil and coal energy.
It’s analogous to family farms.
Raise enough for your family and sell some.
You’re not getting rich, but you are independent.
“About a week after the $$$ ended, there was no trace of the company; no signs, no cars, trucks, vans.”
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I suspect we will see more of that. “Take the money and run”! Much like Solyndra.
What happened to Solyndra? “In September 2011 the company ceased all business activity, filed for bankruptcy under Chapter 11, Title 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code, and laid off all employees. The company was also sued by employees who were abruptly laid off. Solyndra was raided by the FBI investigating the company.”
Frankly, I think a small family can make it on a
lot less land than most folks would think too.
Ten years of my life were spent on a 120 acre farm in
Missouri, so I like the farm life and think it’s a good
way to live.
I’m older now and probably wouldn’t want to take on that
lifestyle now, but for survival it may come to that.
There are ways to grow a lot of your food inside also with
the proper lighting and hydroponics.
I think of times in the not too distant future when we may
need to develop our own food, and we wouldn’t want others
to know that we were.
I agree with your comparison thought. Farms to stand alone
power with the ability to sell some.
Good call.
Back in the day, used to drive down to Lake Allatoona for bass fishing...
This new industry and its 2600 new employees will certainly affect the area negatively, IMHO...
All those H-visa Indians and Pakistanis will change the makeup of the area...
Unless Kemp mandated the 2600 jobs go to American citizens...
Who stole the election?
Truth.
“”I suspect we will see more of that. “Take the money and run”! Much like Solyndra.””
I was actually listening to KSFO AM, over the internet, on the morning Solyndra folded. (Even though KSFO is in San Francisco, they carried Rush, Levin, and others) A Solyndra employee called in to the KSFO morning radio program. He stated that Solyndra had called all the employees in to let them know they would be shutting down that day.
Later on many things were learned. One of the main Solyndra head honchos had resigned (skipped town) a few months earlier. He surfaced in the Bahamas. He had been paid millions, and, of course, ‘donated’ some $$$ to Obama and the democRATS. It also came out that an outside analyst had predicted, almost to the day, when Solyndra would fold. Imagine this. Obama had funneled so many millions to Solyndra. Each solar panel they produced cost about $5 more to produce than for what they sold it. Simple math, really. The analyst simply computed how long the Obama ‘investment’ would last, and gave that same day that Solyndra eventually announced the shutdown.
To this day democRATS still use the term ‘investment’ for the outright theft of hard-earned wages in the private sector. The only money the gov has is money it takes. Spending other people’s money on themselves, and their chosen few, is not hard for soulless creeps.
Dalton, Ga. Is called the carpet Capital of the USA. Located on I-75 Dalton is a prosperous city. Farther south on I-75 is Cartersville, Ga. The NFL quarterback at Jacksonville, Fla. is from Cartersville high school. The town has Lake Altoona(spelling error) and is just about 25 miles north of Atlanta. I-75 has brought lots of prosperity to North Georgia. My old high school West Rome used to play each of those schools in football each year. Look out for Calhoun. Another town on the move to prosperity.
LG is Korean.
Independent once the solar panels pay for themselves . . . and then only until they wear out.
It wasn’t just one person.
What you wrote is accurate for ANY local energy generation device or system.
Solar power for us has an 8-10 yr payback. Panels are guaranteed for 25.
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