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Kremlin Offer to Negotiate on Ukraine Dismissed by Ret. General: 'They Lie'
Newsweek ^ | December 25, 2022 | Fatma Khaled

Posted on 12/25/2022 6:04:46 PM PST by familyop

Retired U.S. General Mark Hertling dismissed Russia's offer to negotiate over the war in Ukraine, even after Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed readiness to discuss solutions. "On Christmas Eve Putin says he's 'ready to negotiate.' Having 'negotiated' w/ Russian military & Defense Ministry I learned lessons: Even in small things, RU officials don't negotiate...they demand, then they lie, and then they renege on agreements," Hertling tweeted Sunday.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 12/25/2022 6:04:46 PM PST by familyop
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To: familyop

The Democrats do not want the war to end. Sick.


2 posted on 12/25/2022 6:07:07 PM PST by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: familyop

“Kremlin Offer to Negotiate on Ukraine Dismissed by Ret. General: ‘They Lie’”

Very true, as proven by the fact that France and Germany WOULD NOT implement Minsk 2, and then with Merkel recently saying that Minsk 2 was NEVER intended to be implemented by the West.

So why should Putin trust anyone in the West again?


3 posted on 12/25/2022 6:09:02 PM PST by BobL
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Their national pride is not based on good deeds. It’s based invading and conquering other countries. Their nationalism is based on a belief that they are inherently superior from birth rather than efforts to make things better for all.


4 posted on 12/25/2022 6:10:39 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop

“Earlier this month, the Kremlin decided to focus on its original goals of “demilitarization and denazification” of Ukraine instead of seizing territory. Putin has often referred to the Ukrainian government and its armed forces as neo-Nazis.”

So, how much beyond the 90 billion we have contributed to keep this war going before we tell Zelensky to start negotiating. The 4 provinces the Russians have under their control are not worth 5 billion let alone 90 billion in this war in which we have no vital national security interest


5 posted on 12/25/2022 6:12:34 PM PST by chuckee ( )
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To: alstewartfan

And we don’t?


6 posted on 12/25/2022 6:12:59 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: familyop
Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed readiness to discuss solutions.


7 posted on 12/25/2022 6:16:24 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: familyop
They lie? But, the Biden regime, Deep State and Ukrainians haven't and don't?

We trust Biden regime and Deep State even though lie about everything else. Simply amazing.

8 posted on 12/25/2022 6:16:52 PM PST by Kazan
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To: familyop

Russia knows how to weaponize winter.


9 posted on 12/25/2022 6:16:58 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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To: familyop

putin is a known liar

and a killer


10 posted on 12/25/2022 6:17:26 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: familyop

“Their national pride is not based on good deeds. It’s based invading and conquering other countries. Their nationalism is based on a belief that they are inherently superior from birth rather than efforts to make things better for all.”

Like the British? Please see below:

Brits Have Invaded Nine Out of Ten Countries

At various times, a new study found, the British have invaded almost 90 per cent of the countries around the globe

Smithsonian Magazine

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/brits-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-109283469/


11 posted on 12/25/2022 6:20:22 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: chuckee

we have always said that the decisions are Ukraines to make

“nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine”

meaning, it’s not our call...

We can choose to support or not support Ukraine’s decisions, but the decisions are Ukraines to make


12 posted on 12/25/2022 6:20:23 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: familyop

>>...they demand, then they lie, and then they renege on agreements<<

Oh the irony. Our government sets itself up to be the bastion of truth, goodness. More like naked corruption from top to bottom.


13 posted on 12/25/2022 6:20:32 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Kazan
"They lie? But, the Biden regime, Deep State and Ukrainians haven't and don't?"

That's illogical, beside the point and off-topic. Deal with our domestic political problems here. The Russians won't do it for us.

By the way, isn't Kazan the name of a place in Russia? Is that where you reside or came from?

14 posted on 12/25/2022 6:24:50 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop

You can’t negotiate with the DC junta, they lie.
And this clown Hertling is the General pushing the renaming of US bases and closing monuments.


15 posted on 12/25/2022 6:26:57 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: tlozo
But, Biden regime and Deep State tell the truth. That is what you want us to believe.

You are fool.

16 posted on 12/25/2022 6:27:13 PM PST by Kazan
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To: All

Here is the unified field theory as to Russia and Russian perspective.

It was several years ago that Rosneft and GAZPROM sat down and briefed Putin on the fundamental reality of the world. That being, oil and gas are everything and most other things are insignifican’t in comparison to that.

Russia’s geographical surface area GUARANTEES their oil and gas will run out last.

Simply that. They will outlast everyone. Go have a look at global gas reserves to understand this.

No, it has nothing to do with Biden policies that might slow US oil and gas output. It is geography and geology, and geology doesn’t care about policies or politics.

Russia is destined for dominance and there is almost nothing anyone can do about it. There is only one tiny sliver of a chance to stop it — and it will never happen.

The US will have to publicly acknowledge the geography advantage just pointed out and overtly say we must invade and steal those resources or we will be forever enslaved.

There is no administration loaded with Greens who could accept such an announcement and mobilization. They would reject the premise.

And so, Russia is destined for dominance. Best get used to it.


17 posted on 12/25/2022 6:27:50 PM PST by Owen
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"Like the British?"

Fallacy. That was the past, and it doesn't make the Russian invasions, terrorism and war crimes right.

18 posted on 12/25/2022 6:28:01 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Russia knows how to weaponize winter.

Right, because Ukrainians will not know how to deal with winter, in their own country.

19 posted on 12/25/2022 6:28:09 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Sunsong

Biden is a known liar. The USA is a known mass killer, election fixer, and land of censorship and political prisoners. Russia bad sure - USA in no position to protest.


20 posted on 12/25/2022 6:28:12 PM PST by libertarian66
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