Posted on 12/24/2022 9:01:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Earlier this week there were multiple reports from China about funeral parlors and crematoriums running above full capacity. A projection by a US based health group concluded that up to a million people in China could die from the virus now that China has abandoned its zero COVID approach. While all of this was happening under the gaze of foreign media outlets, official numbers from China said only a handful of people had died this month. Clearly something didn’t add up.
Yesterday Bloomberg reported that leaked estimates from China’s top health authority paint a very different picture. China’s National Health Commission (NHC) held a meeting on Wednesday and the figures used in that meeting suggest about 18% of China’s entire population has come down with COVID this month.
Almost 250 million people in China may have caught Covid-19 in the first 20 days of December, according to an internal estimate from the nation’s top health officials…
Among the estimates cited in both reports, was the revelation that on Tuesday alone, 37 million people were newly infected with Covid-19 across China. That stood in dramatic contrast to the official number of 3,049 new infections reported that day.
The Financial Times said it was Sun Yang – a deputy director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention – who presented the figures to officials during the closed-door briefing, citing two people familiar with the matter.
Sun explained that the rate of Covid’s spread in China was still rising and estimated that more than half of the population in Beijing and Sichuan were already infected, according to the Financial Times.
It’s not clear where these figures come from because China has essentially stopped testing everyone all the time. Still the numbers are order of magnitude different from the official numbers released by the NHC. So far this month they have reported about 65,000 symptomatic COVID cases and just 8 deaths.
What we know for certain is that the official figures aren’t right. There are multiple videos available on Twitter showing far more than 8 deaths in a single hospital.
Here is the video of the hospital morgue pic.twitter.com/Ur1PKOYEcI
— Wang Xiangwei (@wangxiangweihk) December 22, 2022
There are a bunch of videos like this but because of how China is counting COVID deaths most of these deaths won’t be counted in the official statistics.
China has officially reported two deaths in Beijing during the latest Covid surge but crematoriums are saying they’ve run out of space to put the bodies. #china pic.twitter.com/KSgzfJOUAU
— China Uncensored (@ChinaUncensored) December 22, 2022
There are some videos, which I’ll spare you, showing people collapsing in the street, similar to the ones we saw in the early days of the pandemic. But true to form, China cares more about saving face than telling the truth about what is going on. So state media propagandists like Hu Xijin are posting videos like this one. The idea is that things can’t be as bad in China as foreign media claims because lots of young people are out Christmas shopping.
A friend of mine recorded the video at Wangfujing Commercial Street in Beijing. It seems Beijing has raised the curtain of post-epidemic recovery and prosperity on a large scale tonight. pic.twitter.com/26lX2zCLmt
— Hu Xijin 胡锡进 (@HuXijin_GT) December 24, 2022
Of course the fact that lots of younger and healthier people are going about their business doesn’t mean that lots of older and less healthy people aren’t currently overwhelming hospitals, funeral parlors or morgues in Beijing and Shanghai. Both things can be true at once.
The South China Morning Post is predicting that the peak number of infections nationwide will happen sometime in January.
Ben Cowling, chair professor of epidemiology and head of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of Hong Kong’s school of public health, agreed that some cities like Beijing might have already passed their peak.
“I think nationwide the peak in infections will be in early January. Some cities like Beijing may already have passed their peak,” he said.
Wang Guangfa, a respiratory expert at Peking University First Hospital, told medical news portal Yixuejie that the capital should brace for a peak in severe diseases in one or two weeks, adding that cases would ease only after the Lunar New Year holiday in late January.
“We probably have to wait until February or March before things return to normal,” he was quoted as saying.
So this is going to get worse before it gets better. China’s government will continue to lie about the number of infections and the number of deaths despite evidence showing otherwise. Hopefully this won’t be the last leak that gives us a hint of what the actual numbers look like.
He has a good handle on it. I suspect he will kill millions more.
It is unlikely that there are official statistics from any Chinese source which are truthful or complete. What gets "leaked" to foreigners is narrative from one faction which is intended to discredit or undermine other competing factions within the Chinese government.
Chinese officials may be unable to get truthful information even from their own factions to use in decision making. They may be completely blind as to conditions within their country. It is a common problem with totalitarian systems when they inflict harsh punishments on dissenters from an official narrative.
I'm wondering if this is why Israel and Japan took such drastic measures in making sure everyone was jabbed. If they didn't know ahead of time how susceptible they were genetically, then they would have needed to pull out all the stops to protect their populations.
Just determined by fraudulent RT-PCR test with all false-positive.
Hopefully this will be Xi’s death warrant.
Don’t know about Bigbrown but I go to China because my wife’s family lives there.
Are these the protestors of a few weeks ago?
This virus breakout was already starting to happen before the protests. It was inevitable given the ability of recent strains to spread, even under China’s stringent lockdowns.
If true here is their small pox blanket they will donate to the world. I believe they have found a sneaky way of getting rid of people they don’t want and who are causing them problems
I’m sick too now, right before Christmas, which totally sucks. However, it’s not CoVID, just a headache, sore throat & horrendous cough. Could be worse I guess, but I feel pretty crappy, TBH.
Probably covid, sounds same as me.
For what is really happening in China with covid, listen to this discussion by laowhy86 and SerpentZA:
The China Show: China Just Made a Lethal Mistake, skip to the 43 miute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1el71QjxPw
Partial transcript:
SerpentZA: ... we talk about how China is trying to change your mind through various means and ways and so on and specifically now with the covered restrictions lifted like that ripped off just ripped off the Band-Aid, they’re now trying to pretend to everybody that it’s a good thing and no one’s really in trouble.
Laowhy86: so before we get into this what I want to do is the reason that we’re gonna cover this is because what you won’t get elsewhere is probably kind of the reasoning as to why China’s doing what it’s doing currently it’s just a real quick synopsis before we dive into it, the Chinese government it wants to brag now about how many cases it has it wants it’s a government initiative right now to say yes we are getting upwards of 30 million plus cases per day they’re bragging about that at a state level to the people it was simultaneously saying but there’s only a handful of people dead you know in Beijing they’ve claimed seven right there’s an initiative right now to make people not report things they’ve changed the definition of what means it means to be a covid death and it’s chaos it’s absolute chaos.
SerpentZA: you know here’s the interesting thing that I’ve found is that before they rip the Band-Aid off the government’s stance was we cannot abandon zero covid otherwise you know a millions of people will die that was their whole thing and all the foreign shills the shills line they were like if we get rid of zero covid millions of people are gonna die ...
Laowhy86: because the government initiative said we will never abandon ...
SerpentZA: but that’s what I’m saying right now that they ripped the band a Band-Aid off which was the wrong thing to do rather than like slowly and making sure ... look they’ve had three years to get the elderly people vaccinated those are the people that are dying ...
Laowhy86: and to slowly roll something out of opening up ...
SerpentZA: exactly they’ve had three years more than three years to do it and they didn’t they just kind of put the lockdowns in place and they stuck with it and then they just let it go they just abandoned it right so there’s a big mistake on their part rather than doing it responsibly you know anyway now that we’re seeing the them lift off this uh the restrictions we’re actually are seeing a lot of deaths okay and it’s probably going to come true that a million plus people are gonna die but now the state is saying no we’ve got very few deaths and so are the propagandists and this is the annoying part right say you are a Chinese State propagandist okay and you’re just one of those guys a shill and you’re like millions of people are gonna die a million people are gonna die or whatever why not stick to your guns why do you always have to follow the the Chinese government like a friend one puppy dog ...
Laowhy86: one day you say no we can’t do this a million Chinese people are gonna die you’re evil if you say that China should lift Zero covid the next day they lift it all these people start dying then they go no they’re not dying it was good that they
SerpentZA: and and the government has realized that it’s not uh dangerous so
Laowhy86: leave it to the experts!
SerpentZA: exactly so we’ve seen in a flip-flop on of course the Chinese government and of course all of its supporters and this for everyone it should be a clear indication as to where these people’s loyalties lie and it also should be a clear indication as to the truth doesn’t matter in China no it doesn’t only the only thing that matters is the government narrative.
SerpentZA: so let’s let’s go through a couple of things ...
This was inevitable.
Lock down policies delayed the inevitable and made it worse.
Winnie the Xi have any regrets about this yet?
Bingo. It is Dec, even in China. That is winter. Cold.
It is the bloody flu!! Always has been. Even when you deliberately muck around with it — and then release it for your minions in the West to use as an excuse.
Very good possibility, a way to get rid of a half a million dissidents. The socialist way.
Two coworkers and their spouses came down with Covid over the past two weeks and all four of them are “vaxxed”.
So Fauci helped create a true planet killer. And no one will investigate this murdered. Biden sure won’t and neither did Trump.
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