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Lycoming County is in north-central Pennsyvlania.
It includes the City of Williamsport, home of the Little League World Series.
Posted on 12/17/2022 6:26:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Persistent questions from voters and a petition with 5,000 signatures have convinced the Lycoming County Commissioners in Pennsylvania to recount its 2020 election results.
Around the state, loosely organized groups of voters have been asking various counties for recounts from 2020.
“In our county, they approached our commissioners and leveled allegations that there were thousands of uncounted votes in our county based on what I believe are nonsense statistics,” Lycoming County Director of Elections Forrest Lehman told The Epoch Times.
Groups of 20-80 people started attending county meetings asking for the recount. The county showed various information to answer their questions, Lehman said, but voters still wanted a recount and gathered some 5,000 signatures to make that request.
“That’s when county commissioners decided, as the board of elections, that if there are 5,000 people who signed this petition and have this belief, then we need to hand count these ballots in order to restore public trust in the outcomes of our elections,” Lehman said.
The county has about 70,000 registered voters and a population of around 120,000, so to the commissioners, 5,000 is a lot of signatures, he said.
“This is not something we want to do after every election, but we need to do it once, at least, in order to prove once and for all that our voting system counts the votes accurately and that there were not thousands of uncounted votes that were hidden by an algorithm or some other nonsense like that,” Lehman said.
When the polls close, all precincts take their USB device to election headquarters, where each USB dumps its information into the county machine, and ultimately those vote totals are given to the Department of State for statewide totals.
That is not how the recount will go.
Instead, around 40 county staff members will hand count the nearly 60,000 paper ballots. They will look at two 2020 races—U.S. president and Pennsylvania auditor.
“We chose the auditor general as the second contest for two reasons,” Lehman said. “It is on the front of the ballot along with president, so that’ll eliminate the need to flip every ballot over. The other reason we picked auditor general is because that was a statewide contest that was won by a Republican. Because obviously the presidential contest was won by a Democrat.”
The county wants to look at voter behavior and see how often people split their vote between parties.
“There has been an inability to believe that voters might have split their tickets. That they might have voted for a Democratic president, but then they turned around and voted for a Republican for other offices,” Lehman said. “There’s been an inability to believe that people might do those things. Whereas, I absolutely know that people do those things because I see the ballots.”
He does not expect recount results to be precisely the same as the original report.
“We don’t expect that any recount of that many ballots is going to match one-to-one with the voting system,” Lehman said. “We expected that there will be human errors committed during that hand count.” But they also don’t expect to be off by the thousands, he said.
The Department of State sent counties a letter in November advising that, although the two year retention schedule for 2020 ballots was over in November, 2022, counties should look at their individual situations and, if they are challenges over the 2020 election, consider keeping the ballots longer. Lycoming County Commissioners intent to keep the ballots through 2023, Lehman said.
The recount will start Jan. 9 and could take a week or more.
“We have to get back to people being able to accept the outcomes of elections,” Lehman said. “Even if your side loses. You can’t just love democracy when you win.”
It’s not a recount that’s needed.
It’s an audit.
Part of that recount should be a random 10% of mail in or drop box ballots cast be verified by an in person door to door interview affirming that that was the ballot cast and by said person?
A recount might be effective if any ballots, assuming they still exist, were counted multiple times. Recounting fake ballots won’t change anything.
Precisely!
There must be someone or some group in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania smart enough to publicly point out that what is needed is a Process Audit. Anything less is an insult paid for by local taxpayers.
It only took more than two years to doctor everything up to make it look good.
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ANy process that cannot be audited is on its face fraudulent. Election processes are fraudulent.
This Trump won in lycoming All Precincts
Presidential Electors (Vote for 1), 73766 registered voters, turnout 80.63%
Joseph R. Biden 16971 28.57% 8814 7911 246
Donald J. Trump 41462 69.80% 36162 4731 569
Jo Jorgensen 821 1.38% 613 197 11
Write-in 143 0.24% 94 48 1
Total 59397 100.00% 45683 12887 827
Attorney General (Vote for 1), 73766 registered voters, turnout 80.55%
Josh Shapiro 18010 30.61% 9919 7842 249
Heather Heidelbaugh 39123 66.49% 34135 4459 529
Daniel Wassmer 1178 2.00% 920 238 20
Richard L. Weiss 508 0.86% 344 151 13
Write-in 23 0.04% 19 4 0
Total 58842 100.00% 45337 12694 811
Auditor General (Vote for 1), 73766 registered voters, turnout 80.55%
Nina Ahmad 15583 26.58% 8248 7101 234
Timothy DeFoor 40512 69.10% 35035 4951 526
Jennifer Moore 1963 3.35% 1523 402 38
Olivia Faison 543 0.93% 358 174 11
Write-in 26 0.04% 22 4 0
Total 58627 100.00% 45186 12632 809
You can’t know what person cast what ballot, all that is tracked is who cast a ballot and what method, in person or mail/absentee, still be effective.
In PA, 2 options, 1) if the counties don’t have a number of ballots cast equal to the number of names who cast a ballot, that is fraud which is then 2) proven by random sampling of people who are marked as having cast a ballot. You start by sampling people over 90 years old, since your voter registration includes your birth date, and so on. That takes resources that someone has to pay for and perhaps some cooperation from the county. This is how you find the 700000 vote lead that vanished in PA after election day. Election fraud is very easy and I always wondered why the dems didn’t perfect it earlier. It doesn’t take hacking machines and all that nonsense. As long as there is a paper ballot and the counties continue to track voter history it can be proven. The purpose of tracking voter history is to target voters by the political parties, which is why the dems require it too. I fear soon they will do away with tracking voter history and paper ballots so there is no way to prove fraud.
What about absentee ballots?
The paper ballot is generated by machine. Does a copy go to the voter at the time of voting?
According to official results on the county’s website, former president Donald Trump had 69 percent of Lycoming County’s votes in 2020 and president Joe Biden had 28 percent.
In the attorney general’s race, Democrat and current gubernatorial candidate Josh Shapiro got 30 percent of the county’s vote, while Republican Heather Heidelbaugh won 66 percent of Lycoming County voters in the 2020 election.
https://www.witf.org/2022/10/05/lycoming-county-hand-count-2020-ballots/
Shapiro is the King of voter fraud. Why are thry looking at a county the Democrats lost both races at the county level.
Recount or canvass Montgomery County as it is Shapiro’s home county.
Seems once their crook is in form that point on its all kabuki theater even if they find a surprise ending
EXACTLY
Cannot reconcile a bank account with tainted data.
Republicans: We think some of those ballots might be fraudulent.
Democrats: Let’s count ‘em again!
The article reads there a paper ballots fed into the machines. Not the case in the counties I lived in, but for the ones that provide you a ballot, that’s printed when you show up, they feed that into the machine.so there is something to audit. In beaver County it’s simply touch screen, there is no way to audit anything other than matching the total “ballots” or users of the voting machine to the list of names who voted.
The article reads there a paper ballots fed into the machines. Not the case in the counties I lived in, but for the ones that provide you a ballot, that’s printed when you show up, they feed that into the machine.so there is something to audit. In beaver County it’s simply touch screen, there is no way to audit anything other than matching the total “ballots” or users of the voting machine to the list of names who voted.
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