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RNC’s Ronna McDaniel identifies 'massive' reason for midterm losses
WASHINGTON EXAMINER ^ | December 11, 2022 | Jack Birle

Posted on 12/12/2022 6:58:17 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter

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To: G Larry

There were massive amounts of FRAUD that you write off as “ticket splitting”.

I agree, I am not buying all this “ticket splitting”. The only ticket splitting is they’re splitting whom they fraud with. Ticket splitting is a convenient excuse for the GOPe to do nothing but stay assistant democ-rats.


61 posted on 12/12/2022 7:58:45 AM PST by TiGuy22
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

ronna sez

the sun was in our eyes


62 posted on 12/12/2022 7:58:58 AM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: HamiltonJay

Our general is Trump. We should let our general pick his team.

I get it, a pile of crap compared to a bigger pile of crap is not the optimal choice.

But if we’re going to fight this and win it, we better stop fighting each other first.


63 posted on 12/12/2022 7:59:34 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Translates to “ballot fraud was everywhere” and trying to give it another name. Chances are this “ticket splitting” is in the “statistical anomaly” margin. People don’t typically vote that way.

It’s amazing that they can come up with every reason except one.


64 posted on 12/12/2022 8:00:42 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: HamiltonJay
Like I said, nearly a year, and even on this site no one can or has offered an argument FOR OZ.. because there is none... there is only “he’s not the alternative”... and that shows completely how weak and pathetic OZ always was as a candidate. The race was over once he was the nominee, period.

Exactly, there wasn't enough of the "hate Fetterman FDS" to offset the lack of reasons FOR Oz.

65 posted on 12/12/2022 8:01:00 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: qaz123

1,3 and 4 are simply “At least he’s not fetterman” derivatives, they are not arguments FOR OZ.

and as for number 2:

“2. Because getting control of the Senate puts the WEF, NWO, Soros/Gates agenda in check.”

You do realize, Oz is a card carrying member of the WEF don’t you?

https://www.weforum.org/search?query=OZ

So, if you think OZ was going to put China or the Globalists in check, you are just deluding yourself.


66 posted on 12/12/2022 8:01:41 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

“All you offered is a derivative of “at least he’s not fetterman”... You just chose to verbalize it as consequences of Fetterman winning.”

You are correct, but the argument is valid.

Look, I’m not old enough to sit this *s* out on the couch when it goes down. I want to try all the easy ways first. The first thing we can do is recognize the problem and get control of these elections.


67 posted on 12/12/2022 8:03:38 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The party wants to destroy him BECAUSE he has principles and convictions.


68 posted on 12/12/2022 8:06:12 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Sarcazmo

It would be an interesting test for an independent party to come in and declare they want to look at the election materials and audit them.

Who do we think would fight it? Why would an honest party fight an audit? That’s right, the guys that were cheating.... because they cheated.

This was tried in Georgia, after the 2020 Election and 2021 Runoff. In this most recent election a group said that they identified massive fraud. Crickets.

In Georgia, ballots have to be kept for 22 months. An audit was attempted, led by a group called VoterGA and Garland Favorito.

Dekalb Cty, a very Democrat stronghold, destroyed its ballots 2 or 3 months after the run off. Fulton Cty ballots were supposed to be audited, the warehouse where they were stored was broken into even though there was supposed to be 24/7 security from the Fulton Cty Sheriff’s Officer. State and county claimed the evidence was compromised and the ballots were shredded.

It’s impossible to do anything when the folks that you think are on your side, so-called Republicans, are complicit in all the fraud. People want to talk about Florida and Texas and how they ran their elections

Florida is actually a perfect example of what happens when the state, as a whole, not just one Governor, cooperates and does the right thing. I’m not going down the DeSantis rabbit hole. But except for 3 counties in that state, Florida is about as RED as it gets. And everyone, from the smallest city councils to the largest county commissions to all the folks at the state level, is reading from the same page. Results speak for themselves. And, they’re done in one night, as compared to that travesty in Arizona.


69 posted on 12/12/2022 8:08:23 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Ronna McDaniel obviously has never heard of "voter fraud" and doesn't have a clue what is going on in our elections.

This woman needs to be kicked to the curb and replaced with somebody aware of the massive voter criminality at play in our country. She is part of the problem.

Maybe she can find a useless job with her demonic Uncle Mitt where she can do less damage?

70 posted on 12/12/2022 8:09:10 AM PST by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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To: HamiltonJay
I haven't accepted anything from any establishment GOP shill about Oz -- or any other candidate, for that matter.

I had this election cycle in PA sized up pretty well from the start.

1. I knew Mastriano was going to get his ass kicked in the governor's race.

2. I said Oz would stack up better than any of his GOP competitors in the Senate race.

I was posting this all the way back during the primary season.

You, on the other hand, have been all over the map. First, you said Oz would never win. Then, when his campaign started getting a lot of traction in September, you began complaining here that he was going to win but wouldn't be a conservative senator.

Now that he's lost, you are back to complaining that he didn't have a chance in hell of winning.

The one common thread here seems to be that you're a whining malcontent who has nothing constructive to bring to the table.

71 posted on 12/12/2022 8:10:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Sarcazmo

I never said the argument was invalid, I said that argument and derivatives of it are NOT going to win you a race in PA statewide if you are republican, period.

OZ as a TURD of a candidate, who had ZERO chance of winning. He was completely offbrand as a republican to win here. He had no shot at it.

You want to win as a Republican statewide in PA, you need to have a strong reason to vote FOR YOU.. not “against the other guy”.

If your entire campaign is “I’m not the other guy” in PA, as a republican, you LOSE every time.

46%D
39%R
15%I

Simple math tells you, “Im not the other guy” as a republican isn’t going to ever get it done.

See post 45 and 46... they explain the mathematical realities of PA.

To win as an R statewide, need EVERY R vote you can find, and then need to win I’s by more than 2 to 1 and/or peel off a lot of conservative/moderate Democrats... A carpetbagging globalist, who has been hauled before congress for selling snake oil, and whos advocated for trans kids and gun control isn’t going to have a shot in hell of pulling that off.


72 posted on 12/12/2022 8:11:56 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Pete Dovgan

Ouch. But certainly arguable, at minimum.


73 posted on 12/12/2022 8:15:51 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: HamiltonJay

1,3 and 4 are simply “At least he’s not fetterman” derivatives, they are not arguments FOR OZ. That’s reason enough or have you not been paying attention to what has been going in this country since January 2021?

As for #2...I DO NOT CARE at this point. Why? Because at the end of the day, I think most folks would say that he would NOT be a rubber stamp for Schumer. That he would actually be able to read a bill and understand it. That he wouldn’t have an illegal alien wife telling him what to say and how to vote.

While it may not be enough for you, denying Schumer and Biden the ability to count on one more vote in the Senate is something worth voting for, IMHO. Yes, it’s disgusting that we voters are forced into voting for the “lesser of two evils” damn near every time. But, in some cases, it’s the best we can do. And in this case, it was absolutely the best thing we could do.

Did you watch any of Oz’s interviews? I saw one. He was as right as rain. Would he have kept all his promises? We’ll never know, but look at damn near every other Senator we have. Do any of them keep their promises?

Sorry, you don’t want to take a bite of the sh*t sandwich, fine. But, this one isn’t on Oz as much as you’d like to, since you need a boogeyman to point at and trash. Your prerogative. No biggie.

But, you still need to acknowledge that of 1,200,000 mail in ballots, Fetterman got 949,616. That’s not an easy number to overcome. Yet, Oz did win Election Day voting, according to NBC, so he couldn’t have been that bad.


74 posted on 12/12/2022 8:18:52 AM PST by qaz123
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To: HamiltonJay

“Im not the other guy”

If the other guy votes with Stalin and my belly is grumbling... you better believe that gets me to the polls.

I don’t understand the results of the election in PA. Most people that study political science did not understand what happened.

Lets shore up that election process so we can have confidence in the data. Then we can move on to analysis.


75 posted on 12/12/2022 8:20:27 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: G Larry

Yep.


76 posted on 12/12/2022 8:21:28 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: G Larry

Just great, this GOPe hack is all in on the fraud denial and she is the head of the GOP. This worthless Idiot should be out there every day attacking Hobbs stealing the election instead she comes out with this preposterous BS. We have no party.


77 posted on 12/12/2022 8:23:15 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: gundog

[[Fetterman wasn’t a crap candidate?]]

Exactly. Either our side is so horrible that we can’t even win against a brain damaged tyrant for an opponent, OR, something nefarious took place. Either way, we are screwed.


78 posted on 12/12/2022 8:25:17 AM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: Alberta's Child

Everyone knew Mastriano was going to have his ass kicked.. I can’t think of anyone stating otherwise. Party establishment didn’t want him and he ran a horrible campaign to boot

I did indeed state if Oz did somehow manage a win, he would be a lousy senator, because he was a fraudulent shill, which he is and was. This is also why I stated from the start he would not win and would need a miracle to end it within 5.

Again you ignore the proof, I provided you the links to the data, please show me how OZ didn’t play out exactly how I stated way back in the primary? And post nomination?

I stated, OZ will never get the turnout or support in the T he needed to... I even articulated that he may do better in the Philly eastern part of the state than average GOP candidate, but in reality he didn’t do any better there either. OZ was a decent candidate for a purple suburban district out east for Congress, even stated that too, but statewide I stated he would need a miracle to get within 5.

He got a miracle, Fetterman had a stroke, and that miracle should have let even a mediocre candidate win... then he got another miracle, the uniparty/globalist/establishment went all in and spent more than $100,000,000 pushing him.. and with 2 miracles still went down in flames.

There was only 1 primary candidate who had proven she could outperform Trump and that was Barnette.. she was the only one who could point to an election where she outperformed Trump and she did, she was from a deep blue district so she lost her race, but she overperformed Trump more than 3 points in the 4th district race of 2020.

She was the ONLY player on the board who at least could have had a shot at taking out Fetterman if he was healthy... OZ was the only candidate who was guaranteed to have blown the election as it playedout.

4th congressional district results 2020:

Trump: 37.4
Barnette: 40.5

If the election were back in the 1980s or even early 2000s perhaps Oz would have had a shot, now? Not a chance in hell... Very outdated playbook is the only way you get Oz as a winner in a statewide race in PA.


79 posted on 12/12/2022 8:26:54 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Mr. N. Wolfe

Ronna is short for Corona Virus, which is what she is to conservatives.


80 posted on 12/12/2022 8:28:20 AM PST by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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