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American Bar Association under fire for proposal to abandon LSAT after study shows minorities score lower: Recommendation follows a study that found black test-takers score 11 points lower than the average for white and Asian test-takers.
Just The News ^ | 11/27/2022 | Madeleine Hubbard

Posted on 11/27/2022 8:46:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The American Bar Association is under fire after taking steps to abandon LSAT entrance exam scores as a law school admissions requirement after a study showed that minority applicants score lower.

The Council of the ABA Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar approved the proposed standards revision earlier this month.

The proposed change now goes to the association's policy-making body, the House of Delegates, for review in February. "But final approval to change ABA Standards and Rules of Procedure for Approval of Law Schools rests with the council, which serves as an independent arm of the ABA for the accreditation of the nation’s law schools," said Bill Adams, managing director of ABA accreditation and legal education.

The vote comes after a 2019 study found that black test-takers score 142 on average, 11 points lower than the average for white and Asian test-takers. The 50th percentile is approximately 152 on the test, which gives scores ranging from 120 to 180. The Law School Admissions Council, which administers the LSAT, does not readily publish data about scores by race.

Rep. Greg Steube (R-Fla.) told "Just the News, No Noise" TV show last week that he wishes the LSAT was not a requirement when he was applying to law schools.

"I can guarantee you that's going to have an effect on their schools' bar passage rate if they do away with that," he said.

"But again, it's another example where it's identity politics or, you know, they're more concerned about affirmative action and race than they are the people that can intellectually pass the rigors of law school and become good lawyers," Steube said.

The Wall Street Journal editorial board blasted the ABA move. "The American Bar Association's move to discard objective tests won’t enhance diversity," the board wrote on Thursday. Without the testing, the board argued, students will arrive at school less prepared and unready for the eventual bar exam, which it said may be targeted for elimination next.

Sixty law school deans also signed a letter to the ABA in September stating that eliminating the testing requirement will "diminish the diversity of
law schools' incoming classes."


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1 posted on 11/27/2022 8:46:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

!!% boost for melanin?

Will they follow the Jim Crow 1/16 rule?


2 posted on 11/27/2022 8:48:11 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Bar Lowers


3 posted on 11/27/2022 8:49:01 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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4 posted on 11/27/2022 8:50:06 PM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Limbo! 🎶


5 posted on 11/27/2022 8:52:07 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: All
Or maybe just 1/4 ?
6 posted on 11/27/2022 8:52:45 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Repeat after me - there are no differences between the races.


7 posted on 11/27/2022 8:53:30 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: SeekAndFind

No LSAT, no Bar... what could possibly go wrong?


8 posted on 11/27/2022 8:55:27 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Difference between a cow and the US Capitol 1/6 "riot:" you can only milk a cow 3 times a day)
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To: SeekAndFind

That nasty old IQ Bell Curve rears up again....

No getting around it.


9 posted on 11/27/2022 8:56:06 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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Yup.


10 posted on 11/27/2022 8:58:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I honestly think Blacks are their own worst enemy in
situations like this. Whites and Asians who want to excel
really put in the work.

And yeah, I think there are plenty of lazy White people out
there, so I am not trying to say all Whites really put in
the effort

I do not think that Blacks are less capable of doing well.
I do not think their upbringing is being handled properly.
Somewhere along the line, they are being failed. I do
not think it is the education system. Why can others
attend the same classes, read the same materials, and do
quite well in grades and special testing?

I do not buy off on there being some grand conspiracy that
only Whites and Asians can get through successfully.


11 posted on 11/27/2022 8:58:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the {Const'l} REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s about the same variance on old IQ tests. But that was racist.


12 posted on 11/27/2022 8:59:04 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s black college graduates who score so much lower.

Bell curve of IQ is real.


13 posted on 11/27/2022 9:02:03 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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RE: No LSAT, no Bar... what could possibly go wrong?

Well for one, the Medical Licensure Exams will be next to go.


14 posted on 11/27/2022 9:02:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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study shows minorities score lower: Recommendation follows a study that found black test-takers score 11 points lower than the average for white and Asian test-takers.

The Left has decreed that Asians are no longer minorities.
15 posted on 11/27/2022 9:04:46 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SeekAndFind

Make everyone take a PLSAT test to weed out those who are unlikely to get a good score.


16 posted on 11/27/2022 9:04:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

There are Good Lawyers?


17 posted on 11/27/2022 9:05:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Once again, they think they can plaster over problems by changing standards, instead of focusing on the CAUSE of the problem,#1 being the PISS POOR public education cultivated by the likes of Randi Weingarten.


18 posted on 11/27/2022 9:09:37 PM PST by LizzieD
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To: doorgunner69

Dr. Murray is again validated. Facts are indeed troublesome things.


19 posted on 11/27/2022 9:19:22 PM PST by Spok (“You will own nothing and be happy.” )
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To: SeekAndFind

Who wants a lawyer too stupid to pass the LSAT with a reasonable score?

And why are Blacks identified as being so stupid, by the LSAT committee?


20 posted on 11/27/2022 9:19:45 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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