Posted on 11/15/2022 6:55:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
A former NATO commander said that it was “highly unlikely and illogical” that Russia deliberately attacked Poland during a Tuesday MSNBC appearance in the wake of a reported missile impact.
“If you’re Putin and you have decided to attack NATO, the odds of launching two random missiles into a field in Poland, that’s not how this is going to start,” retired Adm. James Stavridis, a former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, told MSNBC host Chris Jansing. “So if you had to bet right now, I think you’d bet these were errant missiles. They went astray. That will require a significant response itself from NATO and we could talk about what that might include, but that’s very different than a presumption or an action response to a deliberate attack, which I find highly unlikely and illogical at this moment.” (RELATED: Here Are The US Troops In Europe Supporting Ukraine)
An unidentified Russian missile hit a farm near the village of Przewodów, killing two people, according to The Associated Press, after which the Polish government convened its national security council. Russia reportedly launched several dozen missiles against Ukraine, knocking out power in Kiev, the AP reported.
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Were they Russian missiles?
I agree, its not likely to be deliberate. It is just careless in the sense of using missiles, in an alternate mode, known for high failure rates and going off course.
S300’s apparently. Both sides use them, but Russia is known to be using them in large numbers as ersatz ballistic missiles.
It is still not known for sure.
Sounds like something Z-man would do.
It’s not like they bombed the Chinese Embassy.
What utter incompetence!!! Deliberate or not, the schizo technicality, who cares?!
Point is everyone is acting surprised and unprepared about it. What a joke. That discussion should have occured before Russia even invaded Ukraine... heck, before 2014 entre into Sebastopol.
We thought there would be no spill over from that? Good grief.
Either we knew it and traitors hushed it up with the great Hillary Russia reset, or We are completely stupid, which is kind of scarier actually.
Putin will keep pushing battons as We react and fail to be proactive
Looks like they were S-300 air defense missiles, the kind used by Ukraine.
Looks like they were S-300 air defense missiles, the kind used by Ukraine.
Russia fired 90 to 100 missiles today. One went astray or it was a calculated decision. Either way Russia gets to hit Poland and get away with it.
They say they were Russian missiles, but did Russia actually fired them? It makes no sense for Russia to provoke NATO. If Russia fired them, I agree it was likely by accident. I don’t trust either side in this.
Very unlikely. Ukraine has a limited supply of these things - they are using their original prewar stocks - for which they have no ready replacements. They need to be spared as a deterrent vs the RuAF.
Russia however has very large numbers of these ex-Soviet missiles and in their current war they have no other use for them. There is very little threat of Ukrainian airstrikes or cruise missiles. So they have been using them to attack ground targets. They have a very long range, up to @400km, used ground-to-ground, so they have a plausible function. Unfortunately for Russia they aren’t very accurate used this way, and also often go badly wrong, in part because they are forty years old.
On the radio news they said it was a Ukrainian S-300 surface to air missile that went afoul. These things happen. It appears to have been an accident; if it were Ukrainian it likely was not intentional.
Ukrainians launched it.
Both Russia and Ukraine use them. They are ex-Soviet in either case. Russia has been using theirs in large numbers in a long range ground-to-ground role.
Russian S400 antiaircraft missiles aren’t within range of Poland. Neither are their S300s of they have any.
This is from Tass. For Tass this is very subdued, no laying of blame. I don’t think they know who’s it is. I think you can see they recognize the gravity of the situation. Terrifying times, especially with VegPres in charge.
“ NEW YORK, November 16. /TASS/. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told CNN he had no information about Tuesday’s incident in eastern Poland.
“Unfortunately I don’t have any information on that,” CNN quoted Peskov as saying.
Poland’s Radio Zet reported on Tuesday with reference to unofficial sources that two missiles hit grain dryers in the village of Przewodow in eastern Poland’s Lublin Voivodeship, close to the border with Ukraine. According to the report, two people were killed in the incident. The report makes no mention of the origin of those missiles.
The Russian Defense Ministry said the Russian military had performed no strikes targeting the Ukrainian-Polish border zone. “The wreckage published by Polish mass media from the scene in Przewodow have no relation to Russian firepower,” the ministry said in a statement.”
Same here, same goes for NATO, the US, the EU and the media.
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