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At least two dead after Russian missiles land in NATO state Poland on Ukraine border
express.co.uk ^ | 11/15/2022 | CHARLES HARRISON

Posted on 11/15/2022 10:58:26 AM PST by bitt

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To: bitt

According to

the AP news agency,

...sure...

a senior US intelligence official said

... who ? .....fetterman ?

Poland should remember Europe let poland get chewed up in ww2

by the germans headed to russia,,

... Germans fleeing from Russia ,

..then by Russia.

Don’t let Europe punk you again Poland.

Ww3 will be no different.

They will gladly let you jump into a meat grinder like Monty did,,again.


41 posted on 11/15/2022 11:37:52 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: redgolum

“I said MISSILE silos you idiot!”

I’m guessing large wars have been started because of less. IIRC, Hitler justified his bombing of civilian areas in London because on a early bombing raid an errant Allied bomb hit some farmer’s barn.


42 posted on 11/15/2022 11:45:54 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: moovova
Can we get a statement from the FR Russia-supporters?

Probably something like "they're just Poles, and they were next in the list anyway.

Not Article 5 stuff, but a good reason to up the supply of things with which the Ukrainians can shoot down anything Russian that flies.

43 posted on 11/15/2022 11:46:53 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: quikstrike98
At the end, the Kaiser was almost begging his advisors for a way to stop the coming slaughter

And to think that all he had to do was declare, "I think now is not the right time to rape poor little Belgium!"
44 posted on 11/15/2022 11:57:54 AM PST by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Mr Radical

It was a lot more complex than that. There were the mobilization timetables. More intricate than a Swiss watch. If you were going to mobilize, you had to mobiilize.


45 posted on 11/15/2022 11:59:04 AM PST by quikstrike98 ( )
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To: fidelis
Only years later did I figure out that Klingon General Chang was the "dad" in Sound of Music. Christopher Plummer singing Sound of Music songs dressed as a Klingon would have made an excellent Saturday Night Live or Mad TV skit...


46 posted on 11/15/2022 11:59:57 AM PST by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: central_va
WWIII? But who are the good guys?

Apparently there aren't any good guys. Certainly none of the players in this garbage are.

47 posted on 11/15/2022 12:07:02 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! The Gestapo closes ranks.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Certatinly not the USA. We have lost the moral authority to be defaulted as the “good guys”. USA is just another single party fascist nation WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!!


48 posted on 11/15/2022 12:08:48 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Karliner

Yeah but they were out after us with their Wagner greenies. A dozen Green Berets , forty Jarheads and air, arty coordination gave them a shock. Seems the Russkies haven’t learned about that yet.


49 posted on 11/15/2022 12:21:30 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: BenLurkin; bitt
***Flew in over the Gulf of Tonkin***

Yep! Perhaps you have to be {our} my age to wonder about such things. The D.C. war complex may be salivating; they have been mumbling about a nuclear war with Russia.

I like the Moody Blues song on your home page. 👌

50 posted on 11/15/2022 12:21:54 PM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: L,TOWM

hmm.thinking it will start around Christmas, ground nice and hard, people shivering, stuff like that.


51 posted on 11/15/2022 12:28:53 PM PST by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a>)
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

Well, if General Chang could quote Shakespeare (from the original Klingon), he could surely sing Rodgers and Hammerstein.


52 posted on 11/15/2022 12:41:27 PM PST by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: central_va
But who are the good guys?

Not playing in the game.

Sort of like WWI, where there were not bad guys at the start, here there are no good guys.
53 posted on 11/15/2022 12:56:11 PM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: bitt

unforgivable, just because there a 30k Polish troops fighting the Roooskies and Poland is the main hub for weapons for Ukraine is no excuse for those darn Ruskies to plop a missile on their border. I mean, that is just not fair.


54 posted on 11/15/2022 1:04:55 PM PST by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a>)
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To: bitt

The Ukes use Russian SAMs. Probably this was a S-300 straying over the Polish border by means of accident or intentional provocation. Though I doubt it was an accident but can’t rule it out of course.

The conflict as presently framed will inevitably lead to a Russian victory. All the Russians have to do is mobilize (which they are) to completely overwhelm the Ukrainian forces. As Russian is mobilizing the West is developing Ukraine fatigue, and Europe in particular has more pressing issues this winter than the conflict in Ukraine.

The Atlanticist interests behind NATO and the EU would rather widen the war (which will also wash away ‘Ukraine fatigue) and take their chances than permit Russia to walk away from this conflict smelling like a rose, which they are set to do as things are now.


55 posted on 11/15/2022 2:19:41 PM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: xkaydet65

Oh I was told it was pretty heavy. I just posted because sometimes shrapnel happens and awry coords.
I just don’t want to see NATO getting involved.


56 posted on 11/15/2022 5:28:29 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: quikstrike98

Mobilisation is one of the excuses made.
There is a difference between mobilising and invading neutral Belgium. It doesn’t require any more to supply your army and keep them in the field when mobilised and sitting on the border than it does when they charge off and murder civilians in a neutral neighbour.


57 posted on 11/17/2022 3:46:02 AM PST by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Mr Radical

The plan had been formed years before, a lightning strike through Belgium to Paris, to knock France out of the war before Russia overwhelmed them to the east. I’m not employed by the Kaiser’s government to make apologies for their war plans, but they were what they were. The Russians were mobilizing, the French were mobilizing, Germany was left with no choice but to mobilize. The plans were graven in stone at that point, and there was no changing them then. The orders had to be issued, the plans set in motion, and there was absolutely no way to “slightly modify” them.


58 posted on 11/17/2022 5:54:16 AM PST by quikstrike98 ( )
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To: Mr Radical

They did finally get around to altering the plan, after the forces were mobilized and in the field. The Elder Moltke’s dying words years before had been “Keep the right strong,” and they ignored his advice, weakened their strong right hook through Belgium to redeploy divisions to the east against Russia, and they never made it to Paris.


59 posted on 11/17/2022 6:06:00 AM PST by quikstrike98 ( )
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