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50 years of hindsight shows Richard Nixon was right on a lot - opinion
jpost ^ | 11/14/2022 | JUDAH WAXELBAUM

Posted on 11/14/2022 6:59:04 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

This year marks the 50th anniversary of president Richard Nixon’s historic trip to China. This trip is widely recognized as the moment China entered the world stage. There is a common belief among global affairs savants that Nixon made a grave mistake. In reality, however, his logic was sound, and his international policies should still serve as a guiding light.

It is undeniable that China is participating in genocide and atrocities on a scale not seen in decades. China is systematically removing and erasing its Uighur population, killing dissidents, and pushing for a monolithic nation that includes Taiwan. Blaming this on Nixon for allowing China to enter the international arena is a mistake. China would eventually become a global power; the error was thinking capitalism alone was enough.

Nixon was right to give China access to capitalism, resulting in a shift in the dynamics of the markets. However, no one could have predicted that China would ultimately decide who reaps the benefits of capitalism. Could more have been done to control China’s entry into global markets? Yes, but to make this point 50 years later is beyond hindsight; it is revisionist.

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Nixon was great on foreign policy but domestic he stunk. Just like Bush 41.
1 posted on 11/14/2022 6:59:04 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27
' Yes, but to make this point 50 years later is beyond hindsight; it is revisionist.'

Always the scam by these globalist to put facts infront of their face. Nixon and crew rewarded China, just a few years after China had killed or helped to kill our men in Vietnam and Korea. Nixon was trash, just like most Presidents.

Only a moron would reward china with trade, and then never enforce ip issues, trade, slave labor, environmental issues, etc. All for the corporate masters. The gop will forever be sellouts of America, just like the dems.

2 posted on 11/14/2022 7:06:15 AM PST by Theoria
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Richard M. Nixon was a man far before his time. If he had not been cheated out of the 1960 election by last-minute chicanery in Illinois and Texas (both engineered by Papa Joe Kennedy, who famously said, “I’m not paying for one damned vote more than I need!”), the the Berlin Wall would never have been raised, the Cuban missile crisis would never have happened, Vietnam would have been avoided altogether, and very likely the North Korean thorn would have been neutralized long ago.

The Russian Communist leaders knew and understood Nixon, in a way they never really understood JFK, who was a loose cannon back then.


3 posted on 11/14/2022 7:10:36 AM PST by alloysteel (People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do - Isaac Asimov)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Nixon’s greatest failure was that he refused to call out the widespread fraud in Chicago and Louisiana in 1960 that handed JFK the Presidency. Not only were the thieves not held accountable or punished but their power and wealth increased dramatically. It was greatly exacerbated when in 2020 Chief Justice Roberts prevented what was left of an independent judiciary to investigate the monumental fraud in the 2020 election in Pennsylvania. Since then overt fraud has been constant and by the 2020 and 2022 elections it has resulted in the will of the people thwarted. American democracy is indeed flawed and this corruption will be noted by honest historians as a significant reason for the passing of the American nation.


4 posted on 11/14/2022 7:10:59 AM PST by allendale
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To: Theoria

At the time, the train of thought was that it was more valuable trying to keep China away from the USSR’s sphere of influence than risking a deeper Sino-Soviet alliance because of their Communist ideologies. (After all, it was still the time of the Cold War, and our opponent was the USSR above all others.)

I highly doubt most people at the time thought America would outsource much of its manufacturing capacity to Red China, but that’s hindsight for you.


5 posted on 11/14/2022 7:11:13 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
One thing Nixon should have done that he could see with what he knew at the time, was that he should have forced China to pay on their unpaid debts to Americans holding Chinese bonds as condition for opening markets to the west.

To date China owes us over $1.5 trillion in unpaid Chinese treasury debt. Of course, we won't see it because the "us" that China owes are individual Americans (or their heirs since the original debt buyers are long dead), not the U.S. govt.

6 posted on 11/14/2022 7:20:42 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Nixon loved his country, which is more than can be said for ANYONE in the Democrat party, and more than a few in the Republican party.

Nixon made plenty of mistakes. He gave us the EPA. He invoked price controls, which is not as terrible a thing as we might think right now, simply because he gave us a living example of what damage price controls in ANY aspect of an economy can do. (In the same way Neville Chamberlain gave us an example in living memory of the damage that appeasement can do)

I understand Nixon was using the ChiComs as a tool (leverage point) against the Soviets, and I don’t fault him for that, but I give H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton far more fault for the damage that has taken place up to today.

But I give Nixon credit for the mining of Haiphong and bombing of Hanoi, both of which should have been done back in the mid-late Sixties instead of December 1972, and I give him credit for getting us out of Vietnam under favorable conditions.

I absolutely condemn the Democrat Congress for what happened in 1975 when the NVA flooded across the DMZ and they refused to hold up our national obligations agreed to under the Paris Peace Accord, which would have allowed us to use our airpower to stem that advance. Which we should have done.

In the end, with the knowledge of what we saw the Left (and the Assistant Democrats in the Republican Party) do to Trump, we should easily recognize what was done to Nixon in his career, and what was attempted to be done to Whittaker Chambers in his exposure of Soviet espionage in this country, perpetrated by “Americans” who are ideologically joined at the hip with entities that despise America and what it has stood for.

Nixon had plenty of faults. All people (including politicians) do. But there is not a single Democrat or RINO, of which we have (and have had) many, who are fit to shine Nixon’s shoes.


7 posted on 11/14/2022 7:33:39 AM PST by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Nixon closed the window at the Treasury where foreign countries were cashing in American dollars for gold bars.
France, especially, was very busy scraping together greenbacks to buy gold. At the time, Americans could own no more than one ounce by law.


8 posted on 11/14/2022 7:38:25 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Wow!! How bass ackward can you be! Foreign policy? R U f’g kidding me? He and that idiot Kiss-assinger started this China a sh!t!!! They were the first gloBULLists. China would not be a threat if it weren’t for Nixon and globlsit offshoting!!


9 posted on 11/14/2022 7:42:28 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I enjoy telling my left-leaning friends that, in hindsight and with all I know about Watergate, etc., I’d still vote for Nixon over McGovern.


10 posted on 11/14/2022 7:45:36 AM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; Wuli
Over the past week, President Trump has come under a tremendous amount of criticism on this site. So why not turn to a truly great conservative president, Richard Nixon? Nixon's conservative accomplishments include: Yes, indeed, Richard Nixon is the role model that conservatives should embrace!
11 posted on 11/14/2022 7:45:54 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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"But imagine how much better off economically the United States would be today if our manufacturing that was outsourced to China had remained in this country. What’s more, we wouldn’t be dependent upon a rapacious Communist dictatorship for basic necessities."

The Worst Part of Nixon’s Legacy Isn’t Watergate. It’s China.

12 posted on 11/14/2022 7:47:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: rlmorel
Good post.
My first vote ever was for Nixon in '68.
I liked him then, I like him now.
13 posted on 11/14/2022 7:49:50 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: alloysteel

I believe the quote was, “Don’t buy another vote. I won’t pay for a landslide.” It was uttered by Joe during the WV RAT primary in 1960 which cooked HHH’s campaign.
As often happens over the course of decades, words and/or events get conflated.
See book “Don’t buy another vote. I won’t pay for a landslide.” ©2003 by Dr. Allen H. Loghry II
ISBN 0-87012-748-9
LOCCN 2006925448


14 posted on 11/14/2022 8:12:55 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
However, no one could have predicted that China would ultimately decide who reaps the benefits of capitalism.

A whole lot of people could and did. Commies are gonna commie.
15 posted on 11/14/2022 8:14:16 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: rlmorel

bttt


16 posted on 11/14/2022 8:22:52 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: oh8eleven

I was a young teenager delivering the Washington Post on a Navy Base in Maryland at that time, and when I assembled the papers for delivery and saw the headline about B-52s bombing Hanoi...I thought that was absolutely the best headline I had seen in years.

They had it coming, and it was embarrassing as an American to see the North Vietnamese playing us for chumps, thinking they were immune.

I was just shy of the age of enfranschisement at that time, but if I could have voted, I would have hands down voted for Nixon at that time.

The vitriol against him as a result of this “warmongering” drove the Left crazy at the time, and is just another reason I despise them all with a white hot passion.

I will always be grateful to his memory for that. As I am sure many POWs being held in the Hanoi Hilton were...:)

Their accounts of seeing their captors scared sh*****s as the bombs fell around them from those B-52s were, to them as POWs, well worth the risk of having one land on top of them, of that I am certain.

It is hard not to see the parallels between what the Left did to Nixon and what they did to Trump. Different cause, same story.


17 posted on 11/14/2022 8:23:18 AM PST by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: Fiji Hill

ouch


18 posted on 11/14/2022 8:29:32 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Moving everything to China and enriching them merely made them extremely strong. It’s like finding a murderous gang member, giving him a lot of money and weapons and access to your household. Only a dumbass thinks that’s a smart plan.


19 posted on 11/14/2022 8:31:55 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: riverdawg
I’d still vote for Nixon over McGovern.

True that, but McGovern would be considered to conservative to be a Democrat by today's standards.

20 posted on 11/14/2022 8:33:12 AM PST by buckalfa (Kilroy was here, but who was he?)
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