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NEW RULES ON EMPLOYER USE OF TECH FOR EMPLOYEE MONITORING (<i>Employers guilty until they prove innocence.</i>)
Oregon Business Report ^ | 11/03/2022 | Paige Alli, Richard J. Alli, Jr. & John M. Stellwagen

Posted on 11/03/2022 10:50:53 AM PDT by aimhigh

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1 posted on 11/03/2022 10:50:53 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
This is NUTS!

Employers would be prohibited from measuring performance and productivity?

2 posted on 11/03/2022 10:58:00 AM PDT by G Larry ( When Leftists say "Population Control" it means Killing Billions, not "limiting growth".)
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To: aimhigh

Well, I’ve been doing my job from home for over two years without needing to go to the office. Reckon this means the company will force us all back into the office, so I can take a paycut paying for insanely priced gas to do the same job I’ve been doing quite well for over two years so that they can babysit me more closely.


3 posted on 11/03/2022 10:58:47 AM PDT by quikstrike98
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To: aimhigh

I’m sure the NLRB will cite Congressional legislation that gives them the specific authority to do this.


4 posted on 11/03/2022 10:59:28 AM PDT by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: aimhigh

Fine, just send your plan through Congress.


5 posted on 11/03/2022 11:00:16 AM PDT by BobL
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To: aimhigh

The Administrative State strikes again.


6 posted on 11/03/2022 11:00:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: G Larry

Agreed—remote work is totally dependent upon such monitoring.


7 posted on 11/03/2022 11:01:49 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: G Larry
It is nuts, but...

A few weeks ago I got a list of my employees sorted by how long it has been since they had been at work. This was to be used to show leadership how our transition from telework to in person work was going.

My very best employee was listed as having not been at work since April. The VP wanted me to explain. Well, that employee was in the office with me when I got the email.

We walked up to the VPs office and told him his data was suspect.

8 posted on 11/03/2022 11:13:30 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: cgbg

Not really, in my experience.
When I was working remotely my employer had the same criteria for productivity as when I was in the office. Make your numbers, no problem.


9 posted on 11/03/2022 11:15:55 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Mr.Unique

I’ve heard of this happening at my wife’s place of employment. Some supposed report said one of her co-workers had not logged in, or been at the office for several weeks; the person was either online teleworking or there every day but one (where she was sick).

My employer has the right to my maintaining productivity, and the right to fire me if I am proved to misbehave, that is all.


10 posted on 11/03/2022 11:18:49 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: aimhigh

It’s none of the government’s business. Now, on the other hand, employers who monitor employees email/web usage are probably not managing their employees well. It’s fine to have web proxies to stop employees from accidently visiting malicious sites, but good managers know what their employees are producing and know how to keep their employees busy doing meaningful work so there isn’t time to screw around. A busy worker is a happy worker. It’s a matter of focusing on the correct problems.


11 posted on 11/03/2022 11:19:40 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: aimhigh
Challenge this as a violation of contract law.

I'm sure that the employment contract states that employers have the right to verify that the employees are fulfilling their obligations per the terms of the contract.

Is this labor board now suggesting that employers are not allowed to verify that their contracts are being executed properly?

-PJ

12 posted on 11/03/2022 11:20:32 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Republican in occupied CA

Yep, when I log into work, I immediately join my team chat, start working issues, and communicating actively with coworkers. IF they try to say “You didn’t work”, I just have to tell them to review all tickets from my team for the last two years and find my electronic signature on all the issues I’ve worked.


13 posted on 11/03/2022 11:21:18 AM PDT by quikstrike98
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To: aimhigh

I dont mind the FACT of monitoring, but I do want employers to be required to disclose what is being monitored.


14 posted on 11/03/2022 11:22:27 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: G Larry
This is NUTS! Employers would be prohibited from measuring performance and productivity?

Directive 10-289 is here

15 posted on 11/03/2022 11:25:25 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: quikstrike98

If they don’t trust me, then they should fire me. That’s how I would roll if situations were reversed.

It comes back to the classic argument- if you have an employee who is doing 150% of what their co-workers are, with higher quality, and they screw around on FB (or FR) a couple of hours, is there an issue? It depends on if one is hired to produce (I am) or if one is hired to be (or look) busy. But some places put a higher value on LOOKING busy than on getting things done.

Some micromanagers can’t *stand* the sort of person who can bang out as much work in 3 hours as anyone else can in 8 or 10. They are usually the reason the best people leave the job. My best friend’s current boss doesn’t give a damn; it’s funny to hear about the less productive droids trying to tell the boss that ‘Chris is doing this or that on his computer’; Chris has already done more work by 11 (and better work) than the whiner will all day.


16 posted on 11/03/2022 11:30:38 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Roadrunner383

Too bad they can’t cite an enumerated power for the legislation.


17 posted on 11/03/2022 11:32:21 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Roadrunner383
There's the rub. You would think the SCOTUS EPA case would have put a damper on this nonsense but instead, we'll be playing ABC agency whack-a-mole.
18 posted on 11/03/2022 11:36:33 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Republican in occupied CA

Yes, years ago I had a manager who loved to foster distrust and dissension among the team. “Some people are *concerned* that they see you surfing news sites”. “Some people”? “Concerned”? Okay so what you’re telling me is I have to watch my back for all the little tattle-tales that are stabbing me in the back and telling stories.


19 posted on 11/03/2022 11:37:14 AM PDT by quikstrike98
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To: quikstrike98

And those little Karens are are the ones who need every minute of the day to do 3/4 of the work they should be able to handle, and it’s usually piss-poor quality.

You can either do the work in a timely manner with acceptable quality, or you can’t. The complainers usually can’t.


20 posted on 11/03/2022 11:39:25 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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