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Germany´s failing ´stored´ nat-gas & LNG experiment
The Saker ^ | 15 Oct 22 | Jorge Vilches

Posted on 10/16/2022 1:37:53 PM PDT by delta7

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21 posted on 10/16/2022 3:06:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EEGator

“...a dislocation between narratives.”

Interesting you should say that.

On the one hand, we have some huge population of the world that believes that the CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels is our ultimate undoing.

And yet, at least to me, there is the fully equivalent proposition that Mother Earth, Gaia, was furnished to us with an abundance (in some cases and in some locales) of natural gas and even crude oil as the short (NG) and long term end products of life itself. [If you believe that crude oil deposits are compressed dinosaurs]

In this regard and under this view, if Mother Nature gave us the earth to thrive on, then she likewise gave us nat gas as a fuel to warm ourselves, and to advance our civilization, only requiring us to develop our minds and inventiveness to the point where we could use this abundant resource to create fertilizers, medicines and all the other things that are dependent upon nat gas. Which is darn near everything. Nat gas is, to my way of thinking, a gift from God, and a major one. And like everything else, we can harness it to heat our homes or to blow them up. Or to make penicillin or Zyklon B.

So for the Euros to shun nat gas and declare it an inherently evil substance and a curse upon mankind is akin to the fundamentals of their Marxist faith-rejecting secularism. It’s a rejection of Gaia-ism. And I’ll admit the alternative view I sketched out could be criticized as “manifest destiny” type thinking.

Yet even the caveman knew he had to heat his cave in the winter and learned that wood and animal dung were fuels without anyone having to tell him that he’d freeze to death without fire. We are where we are, civilization wise, like it or not. The exploitation of nat gas is immutably fundamental to civilization.


22 posted on 10/16/2022 3:26:44 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Two words: The EU is screwed.

By January they will be begging Russia to take the Donbass or even the entire Ukraine if they will just open the spigots. Unfortunately, most of the 2 main undersea pipelines are FUBAR.

23 posted on 10/16/2022 3:31:33 PM PDT by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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To: delta7

A fantasy all too obviously written by a Russian who didn’t get top marks in English class. Not even worth fisking.


24 posted on 10/16/2022 3:39:54 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: delta7

Where did the natural gas come from that they put under ground?


25 posted on 10/16/2022 3:45:17 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: delta7

“…of dirty fracked seaborne LNG”

Any source that says this should be disregarded.


26 posted on 10/16/2022 4:04:03 PM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters: it’s Oz or Fetterman. Deal with it and vote accordingly.)
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To: blueunicorn6

“Where did the natural gas come from that they put under ground?”

Come on man... Imported LNG. And some came from us.


27 posted on 10/16/2022 4:06:14 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: TexasKamaAina

“The Germans don’t seem too worried: Munich 2022”

A normal raucous Oktoberfest video. Like! It is as if Putin is a ghost in a remote galaxy.


28 posted on 10/16/2022 4:08:51 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: EEGator

.........The adults in Europe are 75% socialists and communists (my guess). American’s who voted for Trump (say 80 million), don’t like Socialists (Bernie, Biden, Pelosi; to name just 3).

I feel sorry for the old people and the young people this winter and many winters to come. But, THE ADULTS of Europe are going to pay a price for being STOOPID!..............and they NEED and DESERVE just that!

On a parallel track, the RUSSIANS, also communists, are going to pay a heavy price for invading Ukraine. AND, they too NEED and DESERVE to!


29 posted on 10/16/2022 4:25:28 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Cen-Tejas

I don’t disagree, and neither is our responsibility.


30 posted on 10/16/2022 4:27:36 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Owen

What other pressure source do you have in mind.


31 posted on 10/16/2022 4:32:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: delta7

What a long article that could be shortened down to this:
The west is hell-bent on getting rid of oil and coal and damn the consequences. If they cared about people, they would be fired up about oil and coal. They don’t care about people.


32 posted on 10/16/2022 4:42:24 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: cranked

That’s 1.8 cubic meters of firewood for 349 Euro. That’s a half cord of wood. Converts to about $720 per cord.


33 posted on 10/16/2022 4:52:38 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: hinckley buzzard

don’t know


34 posted on 10/16/2022 4:58:42 PM PDT by Owen
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To: jdsteel

Irony much?


35 posted on 10/16/2022 5:20:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: delta7

We should have a game show around Europe going green, How many froze to death this week>, How many Starved?, How many killed by religion of peace followers?...


36 posted on 10/16/2022 5:39:33 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: eyeamok

Not a joking matter, people suffering from their leadership. “ I told you so” doesn’t get it. The only thing clear this winter is many will suffer, factories shutting down ( already happening), economies destroyed, pensions destroyed ( dire news in England about their pensions), shortages of everything, much more.

All because of brain dead sanctions and war cheerleaders. No one will be unaffected. No one.


37 posted on 10/16/2022 6:00:18 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

I remember, when Obama was president, conservatives were calling, “Drill, baby, drill.”

The answer was always that drilling would’t do any good because it would take at least 10 years for that new production to show up in supplies.

Then Trump was elected.

Within a year, we were leading the world in oil and gas production and prices had cratered.

Technology happens faster than we expect.


38 posted on 10/16/2022 6:09:03 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas)
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To: Owen

I think I understand what the author is saying. I don’t know enough to have an opinion on if he is correct. Natural gas under high pressure cools as that pressure is released. Europe’s gas storage systems vary in design. All of the designs have one thing in common. They depend upon a pipeline with a large flowing volume of gas at relatively high pressure to connect to. The high pressure in the pipeline means the pressure drop from the storage facility to the pipe is minimized. This means the temperature drop in the gas is minimized. The high flow in the pipe means the small amount of very cold gas is mixed with a large amount of gas at a more normal temperature. This prevents the gas from freezing as methane hydrate which can plug the pipes.


39 posted on 10/16/2022 6:58:43 PM PDT by Fellow Traveler
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To: jdsteel

“…of dirty fracked seaborne LNG”

Any source that says this should be disregarded.


LOL. The Putinists hate fracking? Now why would that be? Could it be because they want to Make Russia Great Again and fracking is a threat to their deluded fantasies?


40 posted on 10/16/2022 7:05:51 PM PDT by lodi90 ( )
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