Posted on 09/23/2022 3:16:08 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
The referendum ascertains three sequential decisions: secession of territories from Ukraine; formation of an independent state; and its entry into the Russian Federation as a subject.
The referendum on September 23-27 in the Donbass and southern Kherson and Zaporozhye regions of Ukraine on their accession to Russian Federation is, prima facie, an exercise of the right of self-determination by the native population who reject the Western-backed regime change in Kiev in 2014 and the ascendancy of extreme nationalist forces with neo-Nazi leanings in the power structure.
But it has other dimensions, too. In all probability, the referendum will overwhelmingly opt for accession to Russian Federation. In Donbass, it is a straightforward question: “Do you support the entry of the DPR into the Russian Federation as a subject of the Russian Federation?” For Kherson and the Zaporozhye Cossacks, the referendum ascertains three sequential decisions: secession of these territories from Ukraine; formation of an independent state; and its entry into the Russian Federation as a subject.
In 2014, all legal procedures for the admission of Crimea and Sevastopol to the Russian Federation were completed in four days. An expeditious process can be expected this time around too. There is huge mass support within Russia for reunification with the ethnic Russian populations in the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine that suffered severe persecution during the past eight-year period, including brutal violence, at the hands of extremist Ukrainian nationalist elements in control of the state apparatus. ...
In the post-Cold War era, the genie of self-determination was first let out of the bottle by the West during the dismemberment of the former Yugoslavia. Although the US midwifed the secession of Kosovo from Serbia as far back as in 2008, the entity is yet to be accorded recognition by the UN.
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The 2008 Kosovo “referendum” went against the Serbian constitution and the upcoming referendums in Donetsk, Luhansk, etc, are said by Zel (whom according to reports from arch-conservative Tucker Carlson locked up political opponents and painted all opposition political parties and media with a broad brush that they’re pro-Putin if they disagreed with him) to go against the Ukrainian constitution.
So if Biden and his fellow Democrats say no to this for Donetsk, etc, then they have to say no to the 2008 Kosovo vote if they both go against their respective constitutions.
The 2008 Kosovo “referendum” wasn’t even a referendum but merely an assembly vote that the west readily accepted.
Media Support ‘Self-Determination’ for US Allies, Not Enemies
https://fair.org/home/media-support-self-determination-for-us-allies-not-enemies/
Newsweek
Nearly 90 Percent of the World Isn’t Following Us on Ukraine
9/15/22
Our familiar system of global political and economic alliances is shifting, and nothing has made this change clearer than the varied reactions to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. While the United States and its closest allies in Europe and Asia have imposed tough economic sanctions on Moscow, 87 percent of the world’s population has declined to follow us. [A map on Conservative Treehouse of countries dismissive of Russian sanctions backs this up]. Economic sanctions have united our adversaries in shared resistance.
Nowhere is the shift more apparent than in energy markets where, unlike with currencies, governments cannot simply print what they need. ...
Saudi Arabia, long a committed American partner, has established a close alliance with Russia in the OPEC Plus cartel. The Saudis have very publicly declined the request of an American president to increase oil production. Instead, they imported Russian oil for domestic use to export more of their own production. Last week they even reduced production and made clear they may do so again.
China is selling Europe liquid natural gas (LNG) that originated in Siberia while importing Russian oil at the same time. ...
Meanwhile, kept solvent by Chinese oil purchases, Iran has become the largest customer for Russian wheat.
India’s petroleum minister has stated publicly that his government has no conflict with Moscow and a “moral duty” to keep down energy prices at home by buying Russian oil.
Alliances that were created in part to counter Western economic and political influence are expanding. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey have announced their interest in joining the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa).
The Shanghai Cooperative Organization currently links China, Russia, India, and Pakistan, among others. Iran plans to join this month while Bahrain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are likely to become “dialogue partners” ...
Revolutions have consequences. Disenfranchising voters has consequences.
Obama Openly Admits ‘Brokering Power Transition’ in Ukraine
Salon
3/10/22
“Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Svoboda Party and its founders, Oleh Tyahnybok and Andriy Parubiy, played leading roles in the U.S-backed coup in February 2014. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt mentioned Tyahnybok as one of the leaders they were working with in their infamous leaked phone call before the coup, even as they tried to exclude him from an official position in the post-coup government.
...it was Yarosh who took to the stage in the Maidan and rejected the Feb. 21, 2014 agreement negotiated by the French, German and Polish foreign ministers, under which President Viktor Yanukovych and opposition political leaders agreed to hold new elections later that year. Instead, Yarosh and Right Sector refused to disarm and led the climactic march on Parliament that overthrew the government.
... In 2014, Nuland and the State Department got their favorite, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, installed as prime minister of the post-coup government.”
These things are transparently fraudulent processes meant for the Russian domestic media market, to justify extraordinary increases of commitment to this war.
The rush is in order to get conscripted replacements to depleted units that are in process of being overrun by the Ukrainians. Putin and co. cannot find manpower otherwise, they have tried everything else.
No more transpatently fraudulent than the 2008 Kosovo “referendum” some in the west accepted.
But nonetheless the libtard MSM agrees with you.
Bonus?
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But even the non-libtard parts of Euro media agree with me.
The world is messier than your understanding of it.
This has nothing to do with the Red Herring of “messy” you conjured up but rather with the real sham being a “referendum” in Kosovo that wasn’t even a referendum but a hand vote jumped on by the west and passed off as being legitimate.
There have been truly sham referendums held in various parts of the world that even Eurotrash media won’t call “sham.”
It’s transparently obvious to the majority of the world’s countries that the same club that passes off dementia Joe as being legitimate pass off the Kosovo “referendum” as being legit while they preemptively attempt to disparage this referendum now.
As another person said that conclusively sums it up rather nicely:
“Funny how the NATO supervised “referendum” in Kosovo was hailed as a seminal. moment for democracy and self determination, but when It happens outside of the globalist’s grasp, it’s suddenly a “sham.” The people running the ballot trafficked coup are the last people on earth to opine on political legitimacy. Screw NATO, WEF, the EU and the fake news. This is legitimate, legal and binding action by the people according to their own rules.” H/t to Antioch).
Much like the transparently fraudulent US/NATO processes that had the world witness the bogus split of Serbia and the creation of some sh*t place called Kosovo, right?
And Russians a 25 million man pool to pull from, but yeah, according to you pro-Ukrainian propagandists who willingly and eagerly swallow that which is incessantly vomited by the West/EU/UK/US/NATO propaganda-ridden media, which btw is solely designed for Western consumption, we are to believe that Russia cannot find no manpower. Okie dokie.
These are really informative links. Thanks.
No problem. Anytime.
Btw, Serbia’s President, Aleksandar Vucic, spoke at the UN asking why the west has a different point of view on Ukraine and Serbia’s territorial integrity as they support Kiev in its fight against Russia, but endorsed Kosovo’s independence.
You know, none of us know the future. But I object to news people who are supposedly ‘reporting’ the ‘news’, reporting the future.
I recognize the puppet, but not the master...
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