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New Totalitarianism Led by ‘Dull Bureaucrats and Technocrats’: Psychologist Mattias Desmet
epoch times ^ | 15 September A.D. 2022 | Jan Jekielek & Masooma Haq

Posted on 09/15/2022 5:56:19 PM PDT by lightman

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Communist Party cadres hang a placard on the neck of a Chinese man during the Cultural Revolution in 1966.

The words on the placard states the man’s name and accuse him of being a member of the “black class.” (Public Domain)

1 posted on 09/15/2022 5:56:19 PM PDT by lightman
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To: lightman

China’s history is full of all kinds of abuses against their own people. They can be a nasty bunch that make sadists look mild.


2 posted on 09/15/2022 5:58:06 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: lightman

Bkmk


3 posted on 09/15/2022 5:58:25 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: All; carriage_hill

GREAT comments from the Epoch Times sidebar:

“Older ThanDirt
4 hours ago

The Bible tells us more than 360 times to “be not afraid” and so I choose not to be. Fear gets in the way of agency.
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PPW
4 hours ago

Fear is NOT from GOD!
Fears are lies of satan!

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mrsfoster2015
3 hours ago

Philippians 4:7
“And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”


4 posted on 09/15/2022 6:00:55 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

The banality of evil. Hannah Arendt told us.


5 posted on 09/15/2022 6:03:23 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: lightman

“What you’re dealing with now is not a communist or not fascist authoritarianism. It is the emergence, I think, of technocratic totalitarianism.”

I’ve heard this argument before and it has some merit. But what is new is the methodology they want to use to implement authoritarianism, not the ideology driving it. Communism and fascism are ideologies, not methodologies, so this is an apples to oranges comparison.

You could have both a Communist technocratic authoritarianism (like China) or a Fascist technocratic authoritarianism (like Europe/US is heading towards). The underlying goals and psychological forces driving it still come from the same old ideologies though, and you won’t stop it by attacking the methodology, any more than you stop an addict by taking away one method of them getting high. They’ll just find another method as long as their goals are the same and the motivation is there.


6 posted on 09/15/2022 6:04:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: lightman

There is already a term for this. It is called managerialism and it is the greatest malady afflicting the modern western world.


7 posted on 09/15/2022 6:12:00 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Boogieman

The underlying goals and psychological forces driving it still come from the same old ideologies though,<<

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

― Alexander Fraser Tytler


8 posted on 09/15/2022 6:18:20 PM PDT by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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To: lightman

People like Robert Malone and Peter McCullough, great as they are, are taken in by “mass formation psychosis” because they were asleep for so long, just bobbing along in the mainstream, that they didn’t see what’s been happening for decades. FreeRepublic came online in the late 90’s just because the trends reached back at least to Watergate, though I think that’s when the media-D.C. complex coalesced. On a recent show, McCullough had a NHS doctor who has been speaking out about vaccine injuries in UK and the guy was blaming Thatcher and Reagan. Mccullough spoke about how he’d been a “moderate, voted both sides of the aisle,” etc., etc. obviously Bobby Kennedy Jr is another one, though I haven’t heard him talk about MFP. So , Malone and McCullough suddenly wake up as the mainstream current is drowning their very reasonable voices and they grasp for some explanation, “it has to be a sudden development caused by the extraordinary free floating anxiety of the pandemic isolation.” Baloney, you were just too busy doing worthy things with your lives, educations and abilities, to see the rapids and approaching brim of the waterfall we’re going over and the chaos below. Tucker teased his Tucker Carlson Today interview with Desmet as one of the smartest men he has ever interviewed. Maybe so ( I didn’t watch it), but his brilliance is in no way exemplified by his theories of mass formation psychosis being the root of this totalitarian outbreak.


9 posted on 09/15/2022 6:36:30 PM PDT by sopo
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Joe Rogan Experience with Guest Dr. Robert Malone (December 31, 2021)
https://odysee.com/@TruthHealthFreedom:1/Joe-Rogan-Dr.-Robert-Malone-JRE-1757-2021-12-31:e

Dr. Malone talks about mass formation in this excellent interview, and talks about Desmet. Malone gets it. The whole interview is worth listening to (yes, I know it’s 3h+), but the section where he talks about mass formation and Desmet starts at around 2h43m.


10 posted on 09/15/2022 6:45:47 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Boogieman

It’s social media, like twit and tictoc, fakebook. They are awful for humanity. Almost evil.

China (and the CIA psychology branches?) recognized it early on, and use it for mass manipulation. To great effect.

It’s a craziness amplifier and spreader.


11 posted on 09/15/2022 6:53:24 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: upchuck

FIE ping to this post.


12 posted on 09/15/2022 7:47:45 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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+1

Thanks for the “2:43” heads up.

The prescription of rebuilding community is in fact what was being destroyed through the lockdowns, church closures, and anti”social distancing”.

Hibernating behind multiple masks feeding from the bottom of the MSM garbage can....

...Good Lord, deliver us!


13 posted on 09/15/2022 8:09:44 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

Although he is not wrong, neither is he especially original. He seems to be unaware of or oblivious to the most pernicious quality of technology— which is, that technology has no soul. If you don’t believe me, compare the feelings you get from a handwritten love letter and the same letter typed out and sent by email. It says it all.


14 posted on 09/15/2022 8:22:33 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: M-cubed
Except he never said that.
15 posted on 09/15/2022 8:42:34 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: lightman
FIE ping to this post.

FIE ???

16 posted on 09/16/2022 7:15:25 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: M-cubed

That quote from Tytler is a fav and so true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_Tytler%2C_Lord_Woodhouselee


17 posted on 09/16/2022 7:24:21 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: upchuck

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18 posted on 09/16/2022 8:34:26 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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“From the First World War onwards, we’ve seen the emergence of an impressive propaganda machinery in the Western world through which a population was constantly manipulated without them knowing it,” said Desmet.

The remedy for this mass formation and to prevent atrocities from occurring is to speak out, he said.

“If you want to disturb the mass formation, then you have to speak out,” said Desmet. “The ancient Greeks called this parrhesia, like a kind of bold, courageous speech, practiced by individuals who refuse to go along with the narratives of a group or dominant narrative.”

Desmet urges all people to find the courage to speak out against irrational, totalitarian policies, not to convince anyone but to exercise their “inalienable rights.”


How many of our churches and so called non profits are more interested in controlling our thoughts and actions than their original charters or beginnings?


19 posted on 09/16/2022 9:32:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Except he never said that. <<

I've heard that... but it sure makes sense ... who ever said it..

20 posted on 09/16/2022 10:03:27 AM PDT by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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