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The army Putin spent 2 decades building has been largely destroyed. Could threaten his regime
Business Insider ^ | September 15, 2022 | John Haltiwanger

Posted on 09/15/2022 10:13:51 AM PDT by billorites

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To: pfflier

Putin isn’t cornered and wounded though. He is reported to be in Uzbekistan. LOL


41 posted on 09/15/2022 11:48:10 AM PDT by dforest
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To: foundedonpurpose

The Institute for Strategic Studies reports that the pre-war size of the Ukrainian military was 197,000 active duty, plus another 900,000 in reserve. Sending in only 180,000 troops vs. a potential mobilized force of 1,100,000 still looks like a very stupid idea to me. The Russians would be outnumbered even against the only the active duty Ukrainian forces.


42 posted on 09/15/2022 12:06:40 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: Boogieman
Yes, I get pissed off when I see tax money and lives lost needless in the effort to prop up the failing "liberal world order", which is agenda that benefits our political class and undermines an American First agenda.
43 posted on 09/15/2022 12:28:07 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: billorites

I can’t wait to gloat at the Putin Puffers when this is done


44 posted on 09/15/2022 12:29:12 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey ( I wiIl not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own!i)
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To: volunbeer
the Russian army looks like a clown show.

If you had said the Ukrainian army and the Biden regime advising it, you would have been right.

Russia absolutely will control everything east of the Dnieper river and the entire Black Seas coastline by the time the war is over.

45 posted on 09/15/2022 12:30:33 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: billorites

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Just one of numerous outlets that reported on this

Unconfirmed leaked data from the Armed Forces of Ukraine General Staff:
- The AFU are only 43-48% complete;
- medical workers at the limit of their strength: the seriously wounded are transported to Europe;
- small arms and bulletproof vests are not enough;

https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1555546218608365568

This is backed up by other reports.

And Ukraine reportedly lost up to 12k soldiers in the last week taking an area the size of Rhode Island while Russia has taken more land recently in Southern Ukraine.

Ukraine has lost at least 50% of its regular, trained people, and had no choice but to go all-in on an offensive attack.


46 posted on 09/15/2022 12:31:21 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: billorites

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The Guardian, Democracy Now, and others reported that a mere 1,000 square kilometers were retaken by Ukraine, not Zel’s claimed 6000 sq km.

The BBC reported that about 1/5 of Ukraine has been conquered by Russia. So Ukrainians retaking 1k to 6k square kilometers of 1/5 of Ukraine turns out to be a paltry percentage (less than 1% to around 5% of what Russia has conquered) and especially paltry given that Russia has made recent advancements into areas of southern Ukraine.

Ukraine took back land the size of Rhode Island (as Russia took more land in the south) and Ukrainian leaders have said publicly they are “worried” if they can even keep it.


47 posted on 09/15/2022 12:32:10 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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What Ukraine did was throw it’s most capable and well armed troops, that NATO had been preparing for months, into a small area of the front.

The Dive With Jackson Hinkle
Zelensky is hiding the truth in Ukraine

https://youtu.be/MnK7viGoDbw

English-speaking NATO troops in Kharkiv?

The justification for this by neocons, if true, would be “Putin mean, Russia bad” akin to Clinton saying “Slobo mean, Serbia bad” or Obama saying “Gaddafi mean, Libya bad” to justify NATO involvement in those countries, which was against their defensive charter they attacking offensively and especially so since neither Serbia nor Libya attacked a NATO member.


48 posted on 09/15/2022 12:33:13 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: billorites

Uh oh,
The rooskie defenders on FReep will start pounding their spoons on their little highchairs.


49 posted on 09/15/2022 12:34:52 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse (..)
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To: billorites

I would say that Putin has a big morale issue in his army.


50 posted on 09/15/2022 12:45:18 PM PDT by Parley Baer (WI)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“80,000 dead Russian soldiers? Highly doubtful. 🙄”

The article didn’t say that: It said “casualties.” Casualties include wounded and captured. But, I think you knew that.


51 posted on 09/15/2022 12:56:40 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Parley Baer

I would say that Putin has a big morale issue in his army.


I would say the Putin has a big problem with morals . . . his own.
Putin is a horrible human being.


52 posted on 09/15/2022 1:00:52 PM PDT by AirForceVet1988 ("As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.")
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To: billorites

As our pro-Putin friends have said, don’t worry, Russia will soon be victorious in Ukraine. /s


53 posted on 09/15/2022 1:11:49 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: foundedonpurpose

“So population size equates military size? Putin according to reports only sent in 180k troops. Russia has a documented force of over 1.2 million troops. They apparently are really concerned.”

Just prior to the invasion, Russia’s total active duty military force was just over 1 million (1,013,000). That’s a for a country that covers eleven time zones. That’s a hell of a lot of territory to cover. 196,000, and 246,000 if constabulary forces are included. For the invasion, Russia also had the forces of the DPR and LPR, as well as Chechens and the Wagner Group. Thus, those forces must be added to the total of the 180,000 Russian troops involved in the invasion.

So, Russia’s invasion force was roughly equal to the entirety of the Ukrainian military.

A basic rule-of-thumb is that an invading force should be 3x the size of the defending force. Thus, Russia should have started its invasion with a combined minimum of 500,000 troops.

So, Russia’s invasion was imbecilic to begin with.


54 posted on 09/15/2022 1:13:45 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

“Russia absolutely will control everything east of the Dnieper river and the entire Black Seas coastline by the time the war is over.”

Oh, we need to save this comment for posterity.


55 posted on 09/15/2022 1:16:12 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: billorites

Utter balderdash


56 posted on 09/15/2022 1:17:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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To: Kazan

“Russia absolutely will control everything east of the Dnieper river and the entire Black Seas coastline by the time the war is over.”

Uh-oh. You called this a WAR, instead of the authorized term Special Military Operation. Your handlers won’t be happy with you; others who have made that “mistake” have been paid visits.


57 posted on 09/15/2022 1:18:45 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Just prior to the invasion, Russia’s total active duty military force was just over 1 million (1,013,000). That’s a for a country that covers eleven time zones. That’s a hell of a lot of territory to cover.

In 2021 Ukraine had 196,000, and 246,000 if constabulary forces are included. For the invasion, Russia also had the forces of the DPR and LPR, as well as Chechens and the Wagner Group. Thus, those forces must be added to the total of the 180,000 Russian troops involved in the invasion.

So, Russia’s invasion force was roughly equal to the entirety of the Ukrainian military.

A basic rule-of-thumb is that an invading force should be 3x the size of the defending force. Thus, Russia should have started its invasion with a combined minimum of 500,000 troops.

So, Russia’s invasion was imbecilic to begin with.


58 posted on 09/15/2022 1:23:01 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Its All Over Except ...
And Ukraine reportedly lost up to 12k soldiers in the last week

only in your wet fantasies, Russian troll


59 posted on 09/15/2022 1:27:10 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Boogieman

You are somewhat correct, although the Viking heritage of death as a victory (getting to drink with Odin) is a key part of the Viking psychology still evident in their descendants (The Ukes & the Rus)...


60 posted on 09/15/2022 2:31:13 PM PDT by SuperLuminal
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