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To: BipolarBob

“Putin’s red line”

You keep talking about Russia’s right to demand security on its borders (meaning they all have to be puppet states of Russia)..

What about Ukraine’s right to not be invaded?

Russia is like the thug who beats his wife to a pulp for not making his dinner right, then looks down on her quivering in a corner, bruised and bloody, and says to her “See what you made me do?”

NATO is a defensive alliance, so Russia is telling its neighbors “you have no right to band together to defend yourselves…” And then it is also saying “if you do, Russia will attack you, so don’t defend yourself because there’s no need…”

Ukraine is the proof that NATO is vital for anyone near Russia and as a direct result of its invasion you have Finland and Sweden joining NATO


7 posted on 09/12/2022 9:10:51 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Well Putin and his crew would have not started This war if those pesky freedom loving Ukrainian “Nazis” voted for Russia’s pet president in 2014. The Russians only wanted a compliant nation that supported Russia’s goals of of a free world. A world were all Russian Eastern Orthodox loving people can be told how to pray by the metropolitan out of Moscow.they would buy their energy from Russia without complaining. They would work in the military equipment plants that produce the needed parts for jet fighters, helicopters, and apc/tanks without price gouging the Russian government. They could mine the large lithium and other ore deposits than are in Ukraine.
There is so much the people of Russia and Ukraine could do together in a new utopia.


40 posted on 09/12/2022 9:49:27 PM PDT by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Cronos
Russia is like the thug who beats his wife to a pulp for not making his dinner right, then looks down on her quivering in a corner, bruised and bloody, and says to her “See what you made me do?” NATO is a defensive alliance, so Russia is telling its neighbors “you have no right to band together to defend yourselves…” And then it is also saying “if you do, Russia will attack you, so don’t defend yourself because there’s no need…”

Excellent commentary as per usual, Cronos!

Regards,

54 posted on 09/12/2022 10:38:38 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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