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Ukraine's mysterious battle to retake Kherson
The Week ^ | 9/6/22 | Peter Weber

Posted on 09/06/2022 10:59:50 AM PDT by JonPreston

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To: JonPreston
It appears it's not going as planned.


41 posted on 09/06/2022 2:43:25 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: reformedliberal

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42 posted on 09/06/2022 2:49:51 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: SaxxonWoods
Russia’s strength is heavy artillery with longer range than Ukraine’s

Good try, but not true. At the moment the Ukrainians have better long range artillery than the Russians have. That's why the Ukrainians can rain munitions down onto narrow bridges, pontoons, and individual buildings housing Russian troops.

43 posted on 09/06/2022 2:50:06 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: mac_truck

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44 posted on 09/06/2022 2:50:43 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: MercyFlush

—> Tell them to pack up and leave and then the dying can stop.

No reason to leave their new territories!


45 posted on 09/06/2022 2:51:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Cathi
Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President...

One of the best indicators of a Russian propaganda account. Who believes that some Russian blogger has a personal source in the office of the President of Ukraine?

46 posted on 09/06/2022 2:52:20 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: PIF

Sorry I was unclear: I mean, of course, AFTER Russia takes Odessa, Ukraine can negotiate transit/port fees with the new owners. On their terms. Maybe. If they ask nicely.


47 posted on 09/06/2022 3:20:27 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: reformedliberal

Russia can only take Odessa in your head, troll.


48 posted on 09/06/2022 3:22:03 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BenLurkin
Of course, that is true.

The Biden and Boris Johnson regimes wanted this war to occur. They thought we could beat Russia in a proxy and sanction war.

This war has always been about defending "the liberal world order" and globalism.

49 posted on 09/06/2022 3:31:45 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“No reason to leave their new territories!”

Then I guess the Ukies need to keep killing the Orcs.


50 posted on 09/06/2022 3:42:03 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush

Ukies - I did notice they are attempting to invade Kherson, Russia…


51 posted on 09/06/2022 4:25:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Moscow, Ukraine” has a nice ring to it.


52 posted on 09/06/2022 6:23:15 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush

Well, maybe begin with some significant victory first and the. We will see 😉


53 posted on 09/06/2022 6:31:44 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: MercyFlush

Riga, Russia sounds better and MUCH more likely.


54 posted on 09/06/2022 7:24:17 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

Fat freaking chance.


55 posted on 09/06/2022 8:22:05 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: JonPreston

I’ve been lurking since April. Been lurking since about 99 actually. This article even though it appears to be even-handed is still western prop. The real story is the Ukes tried to cross a small river in three axises in the southern flank and the Russians knew they were coming. My bet is that the command is compromised. Leasing out intel from NATO but no counter intel. Zelensky wants to keep countint in house for obvious reasons. The Russians allowed them to cross a smaller river near the Dnepier River and had the bridgeheads cordoned and pre-gridded. They were thoroughly routed in one of the worst defeats in Eurasia since WW2 with artillery and airstrikes. I doubt their signal was compromised. But possible. They were nearly encircled but a shockingly they had a reserve force to keep the orcs off long enough to extract them. They also used MI-18s which isn’t in their arsenal. We had some we used for the Afghan campaign and training. Most of them i saw were smoking wreckage. Tons of dead ukes face down in the dirt. This is insane. No way Ukraine can win this unless they find more boots and bodies. I’m sure many of you will flame me as a russian bot..lol. I planned my whole life to kill Russians so fire away..lol. If you don’t believe me or disagree I frankly don’t care. I don’t care about this war either other than the fact we are trashing $billions when we have baby formula shortages. Europe is about to go dark ages.


56 posted on 09/08/2022 6:55:00 AM PDT by TacticalEgressWaypoint (Η ΤΑΝ Η ΕΠΙ ΤΑΣ )
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To: PIF

I guess my profile is being created. The Ukes won’t and didn’t take the Southern flank. In fact, they barely got out with anyone in tact. Horrible rout. Its been over for 2 days. I do expect the Russians to make a hard drive towards Odessa and on to Moldova after the ground freezes. Their armor will pay a heavy price but they can’t deploy naval assets obviously until they secure the coast. They own Ukraine if they own Odessa. They own 1/5 of the world’s food supply too. They never intentionally tried to go for odessa. I know a lot of mariners. After losing their flag ship and two other ships in their swimming pool, the Black Sea, unless the Ukraine and the west sue for peace they will be headed for Moldova by November. Why wouldn’t they? They have nothing to lose now. And their navy has some payback to give. Ukraine has no navy, no airforce, limited helicopters, and a few HIMARS. But we expect them to beat a nuclear power with endless resources and clear ground supply line? I know the folks at the Farm and the Pentagon are smarter than this. This is a politician’s war. I don’t know but the only thing that makes logical sense is the west wants to break Europe off from Russia and China (Silk Road) and make them rely on western oil. It is the only thing that makes strategic sense.


57 posted on 09/08/2022 6:55:00 AM PDT by TacticalEgressWaypoint (Η ΤΑΝ Η ΕΠΙ ΤΑΣ )
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To: TacticalEgressWaypoint
Welcome brand new shiny Orc troll! Hope all your posts are better than your first lame one. But given that you lot seem to dwell in the land of hatred, genocide, disinformation, lies, distortions, I say:

58 posted on 09/08/2022 7:14:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: TacticalEgressWaypoint; Travis McGee; kiryandil; BobL; All

Ping to experience, #56 & 57


59 posted on 09/08/2022 7:16:32 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: PIF

My Orc/Troll Intel was correct. You are welcome. If you had waited you might get some real updates on the Kherson offensive which was good for the Ukes. But since it took FR 4 days to get my account activated and the only reply I got was what I expected. I doubt I will share any useful information. I would return the slight, but that is so highschool.


60 posted on 09/12/2022 8:20:44 AM PDT by TacticalEgressWaypoint (Η ΤΑΝ Η ΕΠΙ ΤΑΣ )
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