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Buffalo Bills punter Matt Araiza, two former San Diego State teammates accused of gang raping minor in lawsuit
ESPN ^ | 6/26/2022 | Alaina Getzenberg

Posted on 08/26/2022 6:50:50 AM PDT by FatherofFive

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To: PGR88

Maybe they were feeling cocky.

They just got taxpayers to cough up for their new stadium.


41 posted on 08/26/2022 7:48:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: FatherofFive

Is it alleged to be “rape” because she was a willing minor, or because she was unwilling?


42 posted on 08/26/2022 7:48:59 AM PDT by devere
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

A 17 year old was plied with alcohol and left bloody by three MEN who raped her.
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That’s HER story. The police investigated and did not press charges, which means they determined that the allegations were dubious. And keep in mind that the “police” do not make the final determination as to whether to prosecute; instead, that is done by veteran sex offense prosecutors. With do respect, I have handled more than 200 sex offense cases as a prosecutor/defense attorney. Prosecutors file charges if they have even the slightest confidence that the allegations are true.


43 posted on 08/26/2022 7:49:12 AM PDT by bort
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To: Drew68

Unfortunately, this is a recurring story of privileged athletes who know no boundaries.


44 posted on 08/26/2022 7:49:15 AM PDT by JGPhila
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To: bort

IIRC, the age of consent in CA is 18.

Why isn’t this a criminal case?


45 posted on 08/26/2022 7:49:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: bort
As a former prosecutor and now a defense attorney with 30 years of experience, including handling 200 plus sex offense cases

Well damn...that's some impressive bona fides right there.
46 posted on 08/26/2022 7:50:11 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: bort

In that sense you are correct and I withdraw the point. However with the driver’s license and drunk driving isn’t that presumed consent involved in obtaining a license? In my state it is.

CC


47 posted on 08/26/2022 7:51:55 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Rape is a crime. Crimes need to be reported to police. Why is there no police report?


48 posted on 08/26/2022 7:52:16 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: bort

Sorry, “implied consent”. Wish FR had an edit function.

CC


49 posted on 08/26/2022 7:55:53 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

17 is not a minor, prior to woke the age of consent in most places was 16. Since woke it’s been raised to 18 which is ridiculous.


50 posted on 08/26/2022 7:55:56 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: dfwgator
He was already being dubbed as “The Punt God”.

The guy I would call "The Punt God" was Joran Berry who played at my Alma Matre, EKU, and then in the NFL. I don't know if he's on a team this year or not.

He's Australian and he could punt those super long punts as well. But he was the best I've ever seen at pinning an opponent inside the 10-yard line. When a drive stalled at your own 45, he would punt the ball with backspin and land it around the 5-yard-line, where the opponent would normally cover it, but giving them a long way to go. If your drive stalls on your own 45, your punter is not a hero if he punts it 20 yards past the endzone.

51 posted on 08/26/2022 7:58:26 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, BY FAR, is that almost all of big media is agenda-driven, not-truth driven.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Yeah, I only break out my legal background when people tell me I don’t know what the law is! I do this for a living every dang day. And let me tell you, people would be shocked at how many phony rape allegations are made against men. These women never get prosecuted for false allegations. The allegations just get swept under the rug. In all fairness, there are many rapes that go unreported, too. This particular allegation sounds suspicious IMHO.


52 posted on 08/26/2022 7:59:36 AM PDT by bort
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To: Poison Pill
Rape is a crime. Crimes need to be reported to police. Why is there no police report?

Because the girl's family wants to get paid and nobody is going to get paid if the Golden Goose goes to prison.

53 posted on 08/26/2022 7:59:55 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Celtic Conservative

It’s “implied consent” in that when you drive on a state road you open yourself up to having to take a breath test if the police suspect you of drunk driving. Every state is different. In my state, you can legally refuse the breath test (while not a crime, you receive an extra period of suspension on your driver’s license). In other states, it is a crime to refuse the test. In my state, the police read a form out to you advising you of your right to take a test or refuse the test. You then give “informed” consent to take the test or you make an “informed” decision to refuse the test. I joke about how stupid this form is b/c it assumes that the person signing it is drunk.
BTW, I understand the confusion on the law. Every state is different. And college campuses have implemented different rules, etc.


54 posted on 08/26/2022 8:05:09 AM PDT by bort
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To: FatherofFive

That’s too bad, if true. This guy had an 80 yard punt a couple of weeks ago.


55 posted on 08/26/2022 8:08:07 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: bort
people would be shocked at how many phony rape allegations are made against men. These women never get prosecuted for false allegations. The allegations just get swept under the rug. In all fairness, there are many rapes that go unreported, too.

Why I'm very leery to call for a person's head on a platter until things fully play out at least beyond the word "accusation".

I only break out my legal background when people tell me I don’t know what the law is!

Thinking back on all of all of my "well I'm no lawyer but here's what I think..." posts. Feel free to lambaste me in the future!
56 posted on 08/26/2022 8:08:39 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: FatherofFive

Trade him to Cleveland


57 posted on 08/26/2022 8:11:59 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
So you would be ok if your 17 year old daughter was given alcohol and three very athletic men SCREWED her while she was going in and out of consciousness, leaving her bloody?

There you go again. Making assumptions. Don't assume - you make an ASS of U and ME.

If you read my initial comment, I started with "IF TRUE" You seem to not want to know all the facts before forming an opinion.

If true, that was horible and he need proper punishment. I'm thinking about the guys who assaulted Bonasera's daughter.

58 posted on 08/26/2022 8:12:17 AM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: mmichaels1970

“First thing I notice is that this is a CIVIL case and not a criminal one. “If true”, this should certainly be handled in a criminal court, not a civil one. Not one seeking a large check.”

Speaking of hopes for a large check, George Foreman is being sued for sexually abusing two young women in the 1970s: https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/george-foreman-accused-of-sexual-abuse-by-two-women-lawsuits/


59 posted on 08/26/2022 8:17:47 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

While the legal process plays out, and the facts are not really known by the debaters here, there seem to be far too many who reflexively tolerate gang rape on this thread to be a family friendly, much less Christian friendly place.


60 posted on 08/26/2022 8:19:28 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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