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To: Kazan

Why were there no efforts by Ukrainian leader, Russia, USA and UN to negotiate and avert a catastrophe that destroys a country and ends up killing many innocents? Did everyone sit on the sidelines waiting for Russia to invade, and then count the corrupt money that pours in. I don’t trust any of them and the people of Ukraine paid a devastating price, and so have we Americans. Tucker may have been right on this.


7 posted on 07/17/2022 12:17:54 PM PDT by apoliticalone (We need real justice not fictitious SOCIAL JUSTICE & DEI that is politics & propaganda, not justice.)
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To: apoliticalone
Why were there no efforts by Ukrainian leader, Russia, USA and UN to negotiate and avert a catastrophe that destroys a country and ends up killing many innocen

There were negotiations. Russia came to us with its security concerns in December and we refused to negotiate.

Russia tried to negotiate and end this war back in March. And, we demanded Ukraine cease negotiating.

22 posted on 07/17/2022 12:35:09 PM PDT by Kazan
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There were lots of negotiations. But Russia demanded that Ukraine demilitarize and run all foreign relations through them. Pretty hard to negotiate when one side basically demands the other side stop being a country.


43 posted on 07/17/2022 1:11:49 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: apoliticalone
Why were there no efforts by Ukrainian leader, Russia, USA and UN to negotiate and avert a catastrophe that destroys a country and ends up killing many innocents?

The US WANTED Russia to invade Ukraine. They could have unequivocally declared and guaranteed that Ukraine would never be a member of NATO. Alternatively, in the days before the invasion when the US was saying Russia was going to attack, the US could have moved some tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine. Russia would have been a lot more hesitant about crossing the border knowing it would mean a direct confrontation with US forces.

The US chose to do neither of those actions. They wanted Russia to attack, assuming they would get enough worldwide support for the resulting sanctions to destroy the Russian economy and lead to the overthrow of the Russian leadership. I wonder if Bolton had any input into the planning for this intended coup.

56 posted on 07/17/2022 1:59:23 PM PDT by Wissa (The winds and waves are always on the side of the ablest navigators.)
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