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To: delta7; MercyFlush; Eleutheria5; Rockingham; Greetings_Puny_Humans; Krosan; Williams; Widget Jr
Ukraine is losing and will lose its war with Russia. For Moscow not to lose the peace, it is unfortunately the case that a rump Ukraine may no longer provide in Russian eyes the security from the NATO/Ukraine threat it understandably (to some) seeks.

Article BEGINS with two unsupported claims, and it the proceeds to go downhill from there. Second sentence is obfuscating and nonsensical, containing, as it does, implied claims that run counter to reality and logic. Article goes on to state that Putin's "denazification" of Ukraine is laudable and essential.

Anyone commenting favorably on this article "outs" himself as a Russian shill. The article is not even worthy of serious consideration, in my estimation.

FAIL!

Regards,

17 posted on 07/03/2022 10:44:48 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
Article goes on to state that Putin's "denazification" of Ukraine is laudable and essential.

The article does not claim nor imply that "denazification" is laudable or essential; rather, it dryly remarks how the way the invasion has currently unfolded makes such a process practically inevitable, along with hypothetical outcomes regarding how far-right elements of Ukraine's military would react.

In fact, the author remarks how this stated goal of Putin's makes it more difficult for him to back down: Ironically, one of the reasons that Putin claims led to his decision to invade could also make it more difficult for him to withdraw Russian troops. That Ukraine is significantly infused with neofascism and ultranationalism means that he has taken on a fight with the kind of country that is more likely to fight hard. If the Ukrainian army is defeated, it will disperse and elements will team up with dispersed members of the often neofascist dominated ‘national battalions,’ who will carry on the fight by means of partisan guerrilla warfare and terrorism. This will make it difficult for Moscow to fully withdraw from a Ukraine that will be overwhelmed with reconstruction once war proper winds down.

This does not sound like an "essential" outcome in the sense you describe, much less a "laudable" one. (In fact, you were the first person to use those words in this entire thread.)

Disagreeing with someone's analysis as to how the war will unfold gives you no right to mischaracterize their opinion.

(Nor does it make the people who happened to take something away from it "Russian shills".)

20 posted on 07/03/2022 11:33:06 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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