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To: marcusmaximus

This is ridiculous nonsense and propaganda...as is nearly all news regarding this conflict.

Ukraine should have negotiated at the outset.
Thinking Ukraine could hold out against Russia is delusional.

Russia will incorporate the Russian populated areas of Ukraine and wrest full control of Ukraine’s access to the Black Sea.

I can’t imagine Russia desires the western part of Ukraine... I doubt they would accept it as a gift...it’s full of communists/globalists and not worth the headache or expense....


20 posted on 06/20/2022 10:07:15 AM PDT by Bobalu (I bet the "K" is silent in monkeypox....)
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To: Bobalu
I can’t imagine Russia desires the western part of Ukraine...

It would be a useful buffer zone - if they can get rid of all the Ukrainians still there. Yes, they will need to exterminate them or drive them all into Western Europe.

But even so, the Russians will press onward to more defensible geographic features in Lithuania, Estonia, Moldavia, and parts of Poland before they are done. This will shorten the borders of their conquered zones and make them easier to hold.

They don't need the cities or the people in those zones.

They are counting on strangling Germany and Turkey, with control of energy supplies to those countries. That effectively takes them out of NATO and takes NATO out of consideration as an opponent.

It might work. It is a race against dwindling supplies of ammunition, equipment, and men. If they fail, the Russians will never get another chance to do it. And their nation will die. It may actually be dying already, even without the war.

My guess is that the Russians are fully committed and will press on, even if Putin is replaced by another leader. And all of the potential replacements are even more extreme than Putin.

A horror show is coming with the "New World Order". We do not have any good options here.

52 posted on 06/20/2022 11:41:25 AM PDT by flamberge (How fast you run does not matter if it is in the wrong direction.)
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