[elpadre]

more of story:

“...If the formula that Kissinger and Stoltenberg propose returns to the Western agenda, the warring parties will in effect return to something like the Minsk II framework – which the United States sabotaged in the advent of the present war. A peace agreement is deeply to be desired, but the character of any possible peace will make clear that the war was unnecessary to begin with....”

[Devils_Tower]

Let’s see, another country the State Dept, NATO, and the CIA destroyed. Do I need to list them again.

The country is broke, bring the dam military home, all of it. It’s time NATO loses its training wheels. No more bribes for the belt way...

[silverleaf]

Doubtful Russia would settle for “ Minsk 3” after what the war has cost them, what they will accomplish by continuing, what they have discovered about the brutality of the Ukes to their own people, the level of deceit and duplicity of the Ukrainian govt, NATO and the West.

[Widget Jr]

#2. Kissinger and Minsk II were a dead end after the invasion started. The recent calls for and talk about peace are really hollow. It is really easy to call for peace, when it is safe and there is no risk for it.

Notice that the calls for peace grew loud after the after the political alliances and aid were set. This was after 40 countries committed to back Ukraine and the weapons shipments picked up. This makes it really cheap talk from my point of view.

[CatHerd]

We sabotaged the Lisbon Agreement in 1992:

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“On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karadžić for the Bosnian Serbs and Mate Boban for the Bosnian Croats. On 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any division of Bosnia. What was said and by whom remains unclear. Warren Zimmermann denied that he told Izetbegović that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. What is indisputable is that on the same day Izetbegović withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_plans_proposed_before_and_during_the_Bosnian_War#Carrington%E2%80%93Cutileiro_plan

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Under Clinton’s Dayton Accords of 1995, the Bosnian Muslims got slightly *less* territory than under Lisbon. There had been a few other peace plans floated between Lisbon and Dayton, but the US always objected the Bosnian Muslims did not get enough map. I’ll never forget the look on Izetbegovic’s face at Dayton. All that death and destruction, only to end up with less.

In 1999 we sabotaged the Rambouillet Agreement (Kosovo) when the odious Madcow Albright whipped out Annex B after the FR Yugoslavia delegation was about to sign off on it:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/23607665

No sovereign nation could possibly agree to such a thing. As you can read, Annex B called for NATO military occupation of the entire FRY, not just Kosovo.

For some reason, we no longer cared about Annex B after bombing the daylights out of Serbia for 78 days, as the Kumanovo Agreement was very much the same as Rambouillet, but minus that pesky Annex B.

So, twice before we have sabotaged peace agreements, and both times it became clear those wars may* not have been necessary. But nobody cared. Except the bereaved, the maimed, the refugees, those who were left to live in ruin.

*There’s a good possibility Lisbon would not have prevented bloodshed altogether, but at least would have provided an agreed-upon framework for ceasefires and peacekeeping.