Posted on 06/10/2022 1:09:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 year colleges are the only success of our education industry ...
This seems off:
“across the expanse of four years, is “much less than 200 hours of actual instructor time.”
200 divide by 4 years is 50 hours per year
50 hours divide by 2 semesters per year is 25 hours
25 hours per semester over 15 weeks per semester is 1.67 hours per week
5 school days per week is 1/3 hour per day.
Assuming 3-4 classes per day is approximately a tenth of an hour per class. None of my classes were 6 minutes long.
And this doesn’t even include labs.
Any major that has the word “studies” in it has anti value and makes you dumber
Plus it cost a heck of a lot to keep those campuses all perfectly groomed with the park like environment.
Better yet, learn to weld, ore become an electrician, carpenter, plumber, or mason.
Too many universities are cesspools of indoctrination. Learn a trade and bypass them.
Sometimes I wish I’d done that.
Specialty Agriculture (i.e. truck farm fancy vegetables. In 1987 I made $1300 a month off 200 organic tomato plants)
Specialty ranching (Ranch a couple of dozen free range pigs/sheep - sell the piglets/lambs for meat)
Become an ethical puppy/kitten breeder.
House painter - interior or exterior
Landscaping
Sell automobiles
Sell real estate
Get a franchise for a doughnut/coffee shop
Get a franchise to clean carpets
Roofing, gutters replacement, installation
UBER driver
Yup!
Different college educations have different values to different people. And it isn’t all measured by economic return.
But our educational system is seriously and intentionally broken from k-20+.
In general, I was thinking of jobs with little or no investment.
But yes. Lots of good opportunities available without college.
Me too. I’ve got four kids. The two boys took wildly divergent paths. One is an aerospace engineer. He already earns more than I do and has only been out of college three years.
( he paid entire school debt in one year)
The other is a trucker. He’s leaving his job and starting over the road with a large flatbed company in two weeks. His income will be 2/3 what the engineer makes.
I often wish I’d gone into s trade.
Now that’s a hard job. I hope it pays accordingly!
Right on. CC for first two years is wise
I’m an Electrical Distribution Designer, and all the Linemen I know make bank.
They “work” a lot of OT though.
I am sure there are some exceptions, but also most people that started community college never finish a four year degree. It’s a dead end for too many people.
Libtard propaganda installment process is expensive - stop complaining 🤪
A major issue with big education is that former politicians and media folk go to academia later in life. They will not go after big education.
Make the schools have some skin in the game. Make them liable for some/part/all of the debt. I bet they would reduce the enrollment in those non-marketable degrees.
This nonsense ends when state legislators refuse to pay for garbage majors and classes.
First list all the majors offered by a university. Then rate majors by how many job placements *in the field* their graduates have after six months. Those majors with high job placement *in the field* of their major are safe. Those on the bottom, with zero job placement, should have their taxpayer funding reconsidered.
This is based on the axiom that taxpayer subsidies should *only* go to majors that *improve* their graduates future.
Next is to review all “elective” classes, to determine if they contribute to the value of students education, or if they are just vanity or cultural/social engineering. If they fail, they might still be offered, just without any taxpayer subsidy. Paid for by cash.
Next are student loans. Universities should have a vested interest that if students are going to take loans for their education, that those loans must be pre-approved by the University to be for acceptable majors.
Just because students can get loans putting them deeply in debt, it is the responsibility of the state to insure that the money is properly used, so that former students do not become public charges.
He is absolutely correct.
US colleges have become absurdly inefficient.
And moreover, far too many people attend colleges, that shouldnt. They arent college material, and they are wasting their time and money, over and above the inefficiency.
This is one of those areas where US society has much to learn from the rest of the world, notably Europe.
“So let’s face it: the physical plant of “a college” is basically identical to that of any high school.”
My HS didn’t have:
Nuclear reactor
IBM 370
Analog computer lab
Heavy water subcritical assembly
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