[Jewbacca]

Welcome to the club.

Orthodox Jews have had to self-segregate for a long time.

Just go make your own clubs and camps and let the the secular garbage slide into wasteland and go broke.

Maybe we’ll get another version of the Catskills out of it.

[reformedliberal]

..another version of the Catskills out of it.
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Went to a couple of those camps/events as a young teen. So much fun. The very definition of safe space, wasn’t it?

So long ago.....

[Pollard]

Kind of hard to just run out and start a new 4H. It's tied into many programs and has been for a long time.

National 4‑H Council’s mission is to increase investment and participation in high-quality 4‑H programs. This is achieved through a unique public-private partnership—including 110 land-grant universities and the Cooperative Extension System, the National Institute of Food and Agriculture within the United States Department of Agriculture, as well as investors,

https://4-h.org/about/annual-report/

[Dr. Sivana]

Just go make your own clubs and camps and let the the secular garbage slide into wasteland and go broke.

Over 100 years ago, Catholics created the parochial school system as an alternative to public schools. It worked great for a long time. Several problems developed.

First, liberal forces within the church diluted and contaminated the product, and it took at least one generation of poorly catechized students for the parents to figure it out.

Second, s sharp decline in religious vocations increased the cost and weakened the product. A layman just doesn't have the same force as Sister Mary Aloysius.

Third, where there are government benefits attached (e.g. school lunches, book subsidies) there are strings, and the schools for in line quickly to keep the subsidies. Where they don't take the benefits, regulations may still cripple them (e.g. "Safety" as in COVID, etc.)

But yes, what you describe is already happening. So we have Traillife, Troops of St. George, parish libraries, homeschool co-ops, Christian sports leagues, etc.

I am happy to look to the Amish and the Orthodox Jews and adapt what works for our needs. It is tricky, and there are lots of false starts, patience is needed, and charity towards the people you work with to form the associations.

[BobL]

“Just go make your own clubs and camps...”

Until the government comes for them.

[Albion Wilde]

Welcome to the club. Orthodox Jews have had to self-segregate for a long time. Just go make your own clubs and camps and let the the secular garbage slide into wasteland and go broke.

She addresses this in the article. Because of the comparatively much larger numbers of Christian-identified people, she — I believe accurately — anticipates ACLU lawsuits insisting that Christian facilities accommodate all comers. So self-segregating will not likely be possible. It has already happened to dating apps, wedding facilities, wedding cake bakers, florists, photographers, and even a family denied the ability to sell their produce at a town farmer's market on the basis of their "exclusionary" (to LGBTs) Christian beliefs.

[NetAddicted]

Do Orthodox Jews have to self-segregate, or do they choose to?