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1 posted on 05/17/2022 1:13:30 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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This kind of progress?

Vladimir Putin's war has not gone to plan. Here are Russia's three biggest failures in Ukraine so far

2 posted on 05/17/2022 1:21:45 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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Our so called leaders have been launching lies at us for so long and so bold they believe their own BS. They can lie to their own people without direct blowback. Telling lies to someone who can blowback is a whole other matter.

Of course Ukraine will lose!


3 posted on 05/17/2022 1:21:49 PM PDT by icclearly
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Of course they won’t win.


4 posted on 05/17/2022 1:22:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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The invaders LOSE by not winning. The country invaded WINS by not losing. Russia losing and Ukraine is winning.


8 posted on 05/17/2022 1:28:14 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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Has this been reviewed by ISW? Has Bill Kristol signed off on this?

/sarc

9 posted on 05/17/2022 1:29:05 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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Why end the war? When it's over this bum goes back to being a piano player.


10 posted on 05/17/2022 1:31:09 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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Even if Russia succeeds in pushing the Ukraine of of the Lunetsk People’s Republic and the DOnetsk People’s Republic, it still failed to restore the elected government which was forced out by the Euro revolt in 2014.


11 posted on 05/17/2022 1:33:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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I don’t understand people feeling sure either way.

There is a large amount of western weapons being introduced, and a large increase of Ukrainian allied troops coming.

How effective will they be?

I don’t know, and I don’t know why other people are sure of the outcome


12 posted on 05/17/2022 1:34:45 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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“British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that Ukraine’s war with Russia was a straightforward case of “good versus evil,”

Where do so many stupid people come from?


13 posted on 05/17/2022 1:34:56 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Arma 3 footage passes off as real says otherwise and that Ukraine is winning. MSM TV says so.


18 posted on 05/17/2022 1:41:21 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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“Russia appears to be using tactics that mimic what worked for them in Mariupol: surrounding a city with ground troops, cutting off Ukrainian forces’ ability to get reinforcements (or food, water, and fuel), then relentlessly pounding Ukrainian positions with artillery, rocket fire, and airstrikes...”

Then Putin can declare himself President-for-Life of the rubble I guess.


27 posted on 05/17/2022 2:03:17 PM PDT by Boogieman
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We’ll be able to see in the coming month.

Ukraine forced a withdrawal from Kiev, which has forced Russia to prioritize. They have since forced a withdrawal from around Khrakiv, which again has Russia prioritizing. They figure they can afford to lose Kharkiv, they can’t afford to lose Izyum, which means they are redistributing those forces where they are most needed.

Aside from the above, the lines have not moved substantially in the last month or more. Russia is obviously trying two pincer moves that will cut off substantial numbers of Ukrainians, and just as obviously the Ukes have resisted, so far fairly effectively. They haven’t been able to roll the Rssians back, in fact the Russians have managed to gain ground, not much, but they have gained.

It looks like the Ukrainians are starting a counter attack from the west side of Izyum. If they have the firepower to carry it off, then its a new ball game. If they do not, then we have a stalemate. The winner will be the one that can absorb the most pain and remain standing.


29 posted on 05/17/2022 2:07:48 PM PDT by marron
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Eloquent plea for Ukraine to surrender because all is lost ... deja vu for the third time.


32 posted on 05/17/2022 2:12:37 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Russia’s immediate goal is destruction of the main force/bulk of the Ukraine Army, located in Donbas. They have been entrenched there since 2014, so have heavy fortifications. It appears Russia is going slow to try to limit casualties as much as possible. Regardless, casualties are unavoidable

What next? In Donbas and Southeast, they will have support, or at least neutrality, from a large part of the population. They can control it easily

I imagine Odessa is next, to turn Ukraine into a landlocked rump state.

But after that, would Russia actually go West of the Dnieper? I can’t imagine they would want to.


33 posted on 05/17/2022 2:17:31 PM PDT by PGR88
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Of course Ukraine won’t win, it’s just a question of how much Russia is willing to settle for and declare victory. A land bridge to Crimea and landlocking Ukraine is my bet and having won Mariupol is a big piece of that.


34 posted on 05/17/2022 2:18:58 PM PDT by bigbob
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The Ukrainians have fought bravely and honorably but they are out gunned and out numbered.


37 posted on 05/17/2022 2:23:25 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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Does this mean the war is over already?

Globohomo will need a new crisis.

41 posted on 05/17/2022 2:37:20 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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Russia’s Progress In Donbas Means Ukraine Likely Won’t Win The War

Why didn't you post his most recent article: Counterattack: How Ukraine Can Drive Russia Out (Part I)

42 posted on 05/17/2022 2:44:40 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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Of course they can since no one defines victory much these days. Is victory getting Crimea back? Is Victory retaking Mariupol, is it bring Donesk and Lugansk back into the fold? What exactly does Ukrainian victory look like? If you won’t answer that question then don’t ask the other.


44 posted on 05/17/2022 2:50:05 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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Ukraine certianly can’t win without help.


46 posted on 05/17/2022 3:01:41 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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