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2000 Mules and Refutations of The Left (VANITY)
5/8/2022 | rlmorel

Posted on 05/09/2022 8:07:06 AM PDT by rlmorel

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To: rlmorel

“...The “2,000 mules” trailer”

So the legacy media reviews trailers now. Sad.


61 posted on 05/09/2022 9:55:48 AM PDT by beef (Let’s go Baizuo!)
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To: beef

I apologize-I wasn’t trying to be condescending. That said, I am interested-how you think someone would be able to refute it?

If someone can explain how the data can be misinterpreted in some way, I would be willing to listen, but I think this is solid work.

What are they going to do-say the tracking data is invalid? Sure. True the Vote would say: “Here is who we purchased data from. The same place that the Georgia State Police or the Philadelphia District Attorney gets their data from. Would you like to dispute it? Here is the raw data of movement over time.

That the video footage, time-synched with the cell phone footage was misleading? The video is the authentic property of the states legally obtained via allowable citizen requests and such.

I think this was well done, and if it were allowed to be viewed by Americans in a legal setting, I fail to see how it could be discounted.


62 posted on 05/09/2022 9:59:49 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: beef

LOL, I completely missed that one! But it sure fits their response...they did a fact check on a trailer.


63 posted on 05/09/2022 10:01:22 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: rlmorel

As Larry Elder said toward the end of the film, “This is a smoking gun.How can you dismiss this? How can you explain that?”


64 posted on 05/09/2022 10:03:15 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: rlmorel

I agree with you. It’s total proof. And the video footage of them doing it is icing on the cake. No way to deny it. Am guessing most are just saying it wouldn’t change the outcome which is a complete lie. These states should have done a deep dive into it when the signed affidavits started pouring in. The proof is laid out in front of them.


65 posted on 05/09/2022 10:04:04 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: Jamestown1630

I like Dennis Prager’s website with its five minute videos on various subjects, but as a political person, he is a bit too squishy for me.

So I wasn’t surprised in the video when he said he was “agnostic” about whether election fraud occurred or not.

And I do realize, his part as the dissenting voice was probably entirely scripted in the panel discussion, but it was fun to see him at the end after (after ostensibly seeing the documentary for the first time) preparing to load a machine gun and go over the ramparts to fight the people who perpetrated the voter fraud!


66 posted on 05/09/2022 10:08:36 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: rlmorel

LOL!

I think he does good work, too; but I guess I can see Gorka with a machine gun before Prager...


67 posted on 05/09/2022 10:12:33 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: rlmorel

“mules”

Lesson for them: don’t do your mule thing with your cell phone on, or don’t take it with you.

I am appalled that cell phone tracking data is available to the public. Seems like an invasion of privacy.


68 posted on 05/09/2022 10:15:34 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: rlmorel

Prager’s not a bad guy, and he’s generally OK on social issues, but he remains what he has always been: an old-school liberal.

Just look at his stance on Ukraine. He’s aligned with the pro-war establishment, though he at least tries to come up with a justification that isn’t complete nonsense.

The mistake is in thinking he’s a conservative, or even less accurately, a populist.


69 posted on 05/09/2022 10:22:32 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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just finished watching it.....as larry elder said at the end...and i paraphrase, what the hell do you think someone was doing stuffing ballots into a ballot box at 4 a.m.?

im not sure what folks want as proof......i really dont.


70 posted on 05/09/2022 10:44:22 AM PDT by raygunfan ( )
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To: rlmorel

The “refutations” need to be “refuted” with facts, or the films will just disappear.


71 posted on 05/09/2022 10:51:07 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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To: rlmorel

No, the mules had to visit FIVE non profits.


72 posted on 05/09/2022 10:54:04 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: glimmerman70; Jamestown1630
I think it is one thing for a lawyer or politician to see this, and then say things like "Oh, in some places people are allowed to drop off votes for relatives, so I don't see a problem here, there isn't any evidence of election fraud..."

But is is quite another thing for a citizen in a legal setting on a jury to see the video, hear that explanation from a defense lawyer, and then have a competent prosecuting attorney stand in front of them and say:

DISTRICT ATTORNEY: You saw with your own eyes.

There were people, tracked by their unique cell phone signature showing it is a unique person, going out at 3 AM in the morning in their car for an extremely circuitous drive. This data showing their route travelled is the exact same type of data purchased from the same companies, used every single day to prosecute criminals.

This overlay on a map shows this one person going on a very detailed and unusual route at 3 AM. They aren't out running errands to buy ice cream for their pregnant wife, or a pack of cigarettes for themselves. They have a very specific course they travel. You have seen one person's track, and they went by nearly every single ballot drop box in the county.

They were going directly to drop boxes. And looking at the time stamps, you can see they paused at each one. See here, this very first drop box they go to, they arrive there at 03:06:23 AM, and begin moving again at 03:08:05 AM a stop of just under two minutes. Why is this person stopped there? It is at the end of a dead end street. There is no traffic light there. There is no traffic there, and there are no stores there. Why did this person who went to 26 other drop box locations in that same ride, stop there for several minutes.

We were curious as well. The investigative team obtained via local disclosure laws nearly 4 million minutes of video footage of ballot drop box locations. We went to see if there was any video footage of this drop box, and there was. You can see here (shows a man getting out of his car, looking left, looking right, then, while stuffing handfuls of ballots into a box) that this fellow, at five minutes after three in the morning, is looking all around as if he wants to ensure he is alone. We've all seen people up to no good, that is what they do, right? Furthermore, he has so many ballots that he drops a few on the ground, and even though he picks a few up to stuff in the box, he leaves a few more right there on the ground.

Those are the votes of his beloved relatives, that he wanted to get out and mail at 3 AM. A few missed ones won't change anything, but you have to ask yourself, what is the hurry here?

And then, at 03:06:26, he jumps back in his car (still looking around suspiciously) and speeds off. Here we have him 10 minutes later at the next ballot drop box up the road, and the pattern is repeated. You can see here, he is the same person, same clothes, same car, putting more ballots in the box.

He sure does have a large family. But why does he need to go to all these different drop boxes? Then he jumps in his car, and while we have no video footage of his next stop, the Non-Profit "Every Vote Counts" which is a Democrat get out the vote organization which got 2.5 million dollars from Jeff Zuckerberg in that campaign, you can see he stops there too for a minute or two. By the way, we identified 250 other people who made similar circuitous routes in their cars, some of which we have time stamped video for correlation, who also made short stops when they arrived at one of these five non-profit organizations shown on the map.

And here is video of the same guy at the next ballot drop box on his route 15 minutes later, putting even more ballots in. We estimate in these 7 stops made so far this night, he put at least ten ballots in each box. Note that according to his route, he made stops at 27 different ballot drop boxes that night.

What do you think was going on here? Do you think these people were out for a ride and their route just happened to take them by the ballot drop boxes? Do you think they were dropping off collected ballots from relatives which, by the way, is illegal in this state? What do you think was going on here? As normal, law-abiding citizens, does this activity look suspicious or perfectly okay?"

73 posted on 05/09/2022 10:55:53 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: JohnnyP

Ah, thanks. An even higher bar of suspected criminality.


74 posted on 05/09/2022 10:56:41 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: cymbeline

My guess is that you agree, when you allow an application to track you for functionality purposes (such as using Google Maps or Apple Maps, just to name two) that they can use your data. And then they sell it to someone who want it for marketing. Or law enforcement. Or politicians. Or someone trying to uncover a crime.

I think True the Vote got a $2 million dollar grant that allowed them to purchase it.

It’s all money. Remember...you are not the customer. YOU are the product.


75 posted on 05/09/2022 11:00:11 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: rlmorel

And estimating at $10 per ballot (according to one person’s statement as to how they were paid) that’s $270 for what - a couple hours’ work?


76 posted on 05/09/2022 11:07:19 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: rlmorel

“My guess is that you agree, when you allow an application to track you “

I’m not good at reading fine print. I gave them permission, huh?


77 posted on 05/09/2022 11:45:37 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: rlmorel

They decided on 10 or more drop boxes, but 5 or more of the organizations.


78 posted on 05/09/2022 12:01:57 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: rlmorel

They don’t have to refute it. They just poo-poo it, knowing that most people don’t have the time, knowledge, or inclination to wade through one billion billion bytes of data. It has to be presented in a clear, concise manner so that anyone can see in a few minutes irrefutable evidence of fraud. IMHO the ping data by itself doesn’t mean much. They are just dots on a screen. They have to show the same guy going from drop box to drop box with ballots. They must have enough video to do this in at least a couple of cases. Then they can point out how the ping data correlates. Now the ping data means something. If all they are going to show is a guy once at a drop box, no matter how suspicious it might look it can be argued that it is a fluke or whatever. But if they show the same guy over and over driving up in the same car and stuffing ballots into the box, then the burden of proof goes over to their side.

My two cents worth.


79 posted on 05/09/2022 12:18:41 PM PDT by beef (Let’s go Baizuo!)
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To: rlmorel

“There are many reasons why a person might repeatedly enter the zone where a drop box is stationed, as the boxes are often strategically placed in busy areas.”

Of course they are right. For example, a person might be returning to get another RedBox movie 20 times a day. Or he or she might prefer to buy 20 gallons of gas in the same day in one gallon increments. Or they might need 20 Big Gulp refills. Who knows? Could be any number of valid reasons. /s

I don’t want it to be true, so I fact-checked, which is the same as debunking it, which is the same as proving it wrong, which means Dinesh D’Souza is Hitler.


80 posted on 05/09/2022 12:21:52 PM PDT by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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