Posted on 03/22/2022 9:39:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Satan’s Church.
I have been thinking that too.
Putin’s view is tempting to Russians because he is preaching greed, sloth, wrath, envy and pride - sins are tempting. He makes Russians envious of what we have in the west, convincing them that it is they who deserve it, but don’t have to work for the good life because others owe it to them as Russia is the special nation above all others because of the WW2.
He makes Russians hate Ukrainians, because they rejected the self-pitting navel-gazing of Russia and want to be friends with successful nations in the west. That is a rejection of Russian twisted values and they’re not taking it well.
Reposting this from another thread, as it is 100% relevant.
There is more going on at FSB and GRU at CIS military HQ in Moscow than most are aware.
And Ukraine has been working to be independent from Moscow much longer than what western society is aware, “bigley” 😎.
Having spent most of a decade in Moscow, I was also able to spend significant time Kiev, Ukraine, and several other places along the Dnieper (and East and West), all the way to Odessa, on the Черное море (Chyorni Morye), right to the last stone territorial wall built by the Roman’s, going down to the sea.
First however, as anyone can see, by geo location, and by road and river, Kiev was relatively short and easy for subordinate Russian/CIS forces to reach.
However, the UA population has long been, or generationally acutely aware (from before UA CCP days, AND since 1991 to the present), of the FSB/KGB and GRU constant threat.
One year after Lenin picked Mao to support and lead Communist revolution across what Lenin hoped would be the entirety of China and Southeast Asia (1921), from 1922 to 1991, and post 1991 CIS, from Ukraine CCP and CIS forced Russian Federation government alignment, Ukraine has likely lost well over 1100 politicians (and or family members) to various forms assassination, not counting WWII, to keep Ukraine subordinate and aligned with Moscow.
Both countries also know Ukraine was the most involved country within the formal CCCP, in the Reagan forced transition from CCCP to CIS.
For example, while they paid with their lives, elements of UA CCP and UA KGB secretly “encouraged” the Polish Solidarity movement (from 1980-1989), encouraging/supporting US involvement within Poland, providing small bits of info, to US assets in West Germany, and thereby to the Reagan Administration.
2 Lubyanka, Moscow, (a couple blocks from the Kremlin), were made acutely aware of this by their poc’s working from Berlin and Dresden East German offices, no later than 1985/1986, (if not before).
UA CCP ultimately wanted freedom, and even after losing close to 20 million people, was willing to keep trying - enter a young KGB East German Security Chief, and perhaps Gorbachev’s smartest and one of his most trusted agents, Putin.
(Not unrelated - Later, Putin was also partially involved in supporting a project and draft’s of what would become Gorbachev’s global “Green Cross” project. “Green Cross” created the architecture of “Global Warmimg/Climate Change” structurally within the UN, and went on to blueprint the infamous Rio to Paris Accords, and included UN-A21. This will wrap around and reconnect with multiple globally authoritative person’s below.)
For many reasons, the people in Kiev and Ukraine are generally significantly more conservative, and far more family oriented than their brothers to the North and East.
Both UA Orthodox, and Evangelical churches are much more prevalent and strident across Ukraine, than Russia, CIS, and most of Central and Western Europe today.
This is part of the problem, as CIS member states are CIS subordinate, and since the Alma-Ata protocols have supportive/reciprocal finance, banking, trade, resource management, judicial, and security (battlespace) subordination with Moscow, (or Russian Federation).
*Untenable —
Furthermore, Moscow has remandated, and is reinforcing the ROC as the state church, and except for a few denominational show pieces, and has a ban (albeit relaxed compared to formal CCCP days), on other denominations (except Islam in its “respected jurisdictions”.
If forceably reintegrated into CIS, Ukrainian religious freedom will go back underground as it largely was before 2012, and the UA Orthodox church will be subordinated to Moscow, which is now at least quietly aligned with KGB Pope Francis, as anyone reading will see in a minute.
Worse, neither KGB ROC Patriarch Kirill (Vladimir Mikhailovich Gundyayev), nor his KGB predecessor Alexy II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger), were able to truly subordinate the UA Orthodox church under Putin’s regime.
And ROC is a very useful and powerful political instrument, from various political “angles” -
KGB/FSB ROC - what it really is, for those who actually desire to know the truth, and get a bit closer to understanding what we are really seeing now —
https://www.academia.edu/37152767/The_Mikhailov_Files_Patriarch_Kirill_and_the_KGB
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/09/19/the-kgb-and-the-russian-orthodox-church/amp/
https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_009_Kyrill_2.html
https://thenewamerican.com/putin-defender-of-christian-faith-and-morality/
Putin Rewrites Church History to Justify Taking Ukraine
And Putin has successfully tied the ROC to a former KGB Marxist 1960’s priest named *Jorge Mario Bergoglio (Now Pope Francis) of the RCC and to the World Counsel of Churches (leftist WCC) -
http://www.analysis-review.com/catholic-pope-kgb-patriarch-get-together/
https://traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A956-Sch.htm
https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/Red-Pope.html
https://www.aim.org/aim-column/pope-francis-jihad-and-moscows-espionage-church/
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/liberation-theology-activist-pope-francis-is-one-of-us
https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/i99ht_104_Kirill.html
https://watchingamerica.com/WA/2018/01/14/pope-francis-and-putin-2018s-unspoken-partnership/
https://newspunch.com/wikileaks-soros-vatican-coup/
*And it also tied to German Born Leninist, yours truly Klaus Schwab -
And Pope Francis was indeed at “Ground Zero” of the KGB’s development and effort to spread “Liberation theology” and “Social Justice” not only within the Roman Catholic Church, but through members of the non-Catholic World Council of Churches under the Church, and was part of the plan to neutralize the churches, and to spread societal division, and to necessarily create pervasive sexual perversion throughout Western societies.
We were redundantly warned, decades ago, of this very real scheme and effort by defectors Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Sergei Kordikov (assassinated near Olympic Village, Squaw Valley, California, shortly after //TS Senate Intel), Yuri Bezmenov, and several others.
Yuri Bezmenov (abridged/short) -
It was much worse than most were aware —
VATICAN II / Goudium Spetz
- Socialist/Marxist Arch Brazilian Bishop Camarra along side KGB priest agent Jorge Mario Bergoglio leads 42 Bishops to Underground Chapel Catacombs Pact, after procession of Pagan Idols of Hachemama @ -9:45
- Advocates global depopulation to save “Earth” - Again KGB priest Jorge Mario Bergoglio alongside with Camarra for entire procession and Catacomb Pact
(Practicing Catholics refer to as an “Abomination of Desolation “. Not Biblical “AoD” from Daniel writing from Babylon.)
- Camarra attacked John Paul II on social and abortion positions
- 1965 Brotherhood of Man Catacomb Pact
- Re-Ordered by *Francis Amazon Synod (New Social Order / New World Order in 2019
- Klaus Schwab introduces global Communism through RCC, forces acceptance of communist KGB bishop at Davos, Switzerland —> Start at -12:40 and -16:15 (of 35:20)
Here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwjeumh21xE
Putin’s special appearance with Klaus Schwab at Global World Economic Forum (WEF JAN 2021)
Putin, worked with Klause Shwab since at least 1992 -
- In his own words and full context
Advocates for global vaccinations (including for young children), and rapid unification of global central banks -
In a nutshell, Ukraine is really not on board, and can only be crushed if Moscow and the globalists are to be successful.
That's like saying, Pope Francis isn't a Marxist because he gave some speeches reaffirming traditional marriage (which he has undermined), or traditional religion (which he has also undermined).
Another poster has posted links on the KGB, Kirill and the Russian Orthodox Church. I recommend you read them instead of being so easily fooled by a confirmed, known KGB puppet.
You beat me to it!
They have proven themselves opportunistic looters. The remainders are absolute trash.
Not surpising. Soros obama ajd co will do nothing short of imprisoning those who do not support a deep state ukraine they likely installed in 2014.
O wait, whoopi wants to return to that. So much for criminal reform. But all the Ukrainian boot lickers youre good.
I just dont support either side, unless this is a replace putin push.. we shpuld not be in the regime change biz, even for good n moral reasons.
The Ukrainian people are likely pawns in a corruptocratic nwo deep state. But, so are we. So we have work to do here.
"By positing a link between capitalism and war, he seems to be taking an ultra-radical line: one that consciously or unconsciously follows Vladimir Lenin in his diagnosis of capitalism and imperialism as the main reason why world war broke out a century ago."
I think we should be watching Jorge Mario Bergoglio.
You say he is such a strong advocate for liberation theology.
But you seem to admit there are no speeches of his that advocate for it.
He hasn’t appointed Bishops in favor of it.
There is no significant movement for it in the Russian Orthodox Church.
He has been in there a long time, why isn’t it all over the place then?
The theology, teaching, and services haven’t changed.
The creed is the same.
So what we are supposedly believe what the voices told you?
Could you have convinced yourself of something that isn’t remotely true?
Ok, so take out “Ukraine”, although it is clearly the target presently.
What’s left is certainly NOT Christianity as taught by Christ. It’s more like some of the worse parts of Islam.
He is not a “traditionalist.” He just plays one on tv.
Thank you! All these gullible fools uttering all this clap trap as if this guy is some legitimate spiritual leader. He's a Kremlin stooge, a total fraud.
Lol. What color is the sky in your world?
You are delusional man, good grief!
What a joke of a synopsis from you...
Here is the WCC still spreading Liberation Theology today:
https://www.oikoumene.org/news/liberation-theology-is-alive-and-well
Here is Kirill's history and appointment to this organization and his task in the KGB:
"Liberation theology, of which not much has been heard for two decades, is back in the news. But what is not being mentioned is its origins. It was not invented by Latin American Catholics. It was developed by the KGB. The man who is now the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, secretly worked for the KGB under the code name “Mikhailov” and spent four decades promoting liberation theology, which we at the top of the Eastern European intelligence community nicknamed Christianized Marxism.
"Liberation theology has been generally understood to be a marriage of Marxism and Christianity. What has not been understood is that it was not the product of Christians who pursued Communism, but of Communists who pursued Christians. I described the birth of liberation theology in my book Disinformation, co-authored with Professor Ronald Rychlak. Its genesis was part of a highly classified Party/State Disinformation Program, formally approved in 1960 by KGB chairman Aleksandr Shelepin and Politburo member Aleksei Kirichenko, then the second in the party hierarchy after Nikita Khrushchev.
In 1971, the KGB sent Kirill — who had just been elevated to the rank of archimandrite — to Geneva as emissary of the Russian Orthodox Church to the World Council of Churches. The WCC was, and still is, the largest international religious organization after the Vatican, representing some 550 million Christians of various denominations in 120 countries. Kirill/Mikhailov’s main task was to involve the WCC in spreading the new liberation theology throughout Latin America. In 1975, the KGB was able to infiltrate Kirill into the Central Committee of the WCC — a position he held until he was “elected” patriarch of Russia, in 2009. Not long after he joined the Central Committee, Kirill reported to the KGB: “Now the agenda of the WCC is also our agenda.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/04/secret-roots-liberation-theology/
Has the WCC done anything good since the 70s? Has Kirill, as an executive member of the WCC, ever turned that organization to anything other than a destroyer of the Christian faith in Latin America? Yes? No? Maybe so?
More on the WCC:
https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/wcc-assembly-demonstrates-spirit-of-antichrist-prof-says/
You also asked if Kirill has appointed any commie Bishops.
Per the KGB files that have been released from various countries, ALL leading Priests in the ROC were KGB agents, meaning not just informants, but actual officers in the security services.
The creed is the same.
When Kirill was in Cuba receiving medals and honors from Castro, who called him a friend and an ally, and Kirill gushingly praising the Castros as friends of Orthodoxy, what was his creed?
An even better question: who in Russia even gives a damn what Kirill preaches? Kirill has more fans in the US, among closet totalitarians posing as Christians, than he does in Russia, where only 7% of the population even attends church once a month!
Could you have convinced yourself of something that isn’t remotely true?
So much for holy men..they don’t exist
Man knows nothing about God, the application of commandments, or Christ..
It’s the lesson we see..Sadly
Yea you know
https://rumble.com/vwd2iv-requiem-for-ukraine-and-the-world.html
The Russian Orthodox Church has been a corrupt state organ since Lenin .
If that’s true then it is even worse. He joins the KGB even after all that!
There is much that I find beautiful and admirable about Russian Orthodoxy, but its long history of entwining the Church and the state, and embedding Orthodoxy within Russian nationalism, isn't on my list.
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