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Russia stops space cooperation with US: 'Let them fly on brooms'
Jerusalem Post ^ | 03/03/2022 | Tzvi Joffre

Posted on 03/04/2022 12:21:35 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

Dmitry Rogozin, director-general of Roscosmos, announced that Russia would be halting the delivery of rocket engines to the US, saying "let them fly into space on their brooms," according to RIA Novosti.

Rogozin added that Russia would be ending cooperation with the US on experiments on the ISS. He added that the priority of the country's space program would be adjusted to focus on satellites for defense interests. Rogozin announced as well on Thursday that Roscosmos would be freezing cooperation with the German Aerospace Center (DLR) in a letter to the administrator of the DLR, Anke Kaysser-Pyzalla. The DLR announced on Thursday that it was terminating all collaboration activities with Russian institutions and would not start any new projects or initiatives with them...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: international; iss; russia; space; station; ukrainewar
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To: A Navy Vet

Worth noting that SpaceX isn’t *completely* ready to take over yet - and the “emergency lifeboat” ship docked at the ISS in case the inhabitants have to evacuate is a Russian Soyuz, which gets rotated out for another on a regular basis. The Soyuz is old enough and tested enough that the things can be left up there on an extended basis. Dragon hasn’t been certified to do that.


21 posted on 03/04/2022 1:02:04 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Dmitry Rogozin, director-general of Roscosmos, announced that Russia would be halting the delivery of rocket engines to the US, saying “let them fly into space on their brooms,”

“Paging Mr. Elon Musk, please pick up the white courtesy phone.”


22 posted on 03/04/2022 1:05:11 PM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST )
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To: cpdiii

The issue with that is that nobody else’s engines slot into the various US launch systems that used Russian engines. That leaves us with just SpaceX and some of the systems that use Blue Origin engines - being stuck with a single or limited providers is not good.


23 posted on 03/04/2022 1:07:13 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

A space guy on TV said that the big thing is maintaining orbit. That was the Russians job. Since they just boosted it to a higher orbit, it will be fine for 3 months - after which someone is going to have to give it a boost again. Or the orbit will continue to decay to reentry.


24 posted on 03/04/2022 1:11:09 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Yo-Yo

Wanna bet an ice cream bar that Russia will claim the ISS space station as IT’S PROPERTY entirely???


25 posted on 03/04/2022 1:16:41 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I wondered since the start of us working with Russia on this, if it was wise.
For the exact scenario that is happening .

What do we need Russia?
Foolish.


26 posted on 03/04/2022 1:19:11 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (remorse)
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To: Spktyr
Fair enough, but watch civilian spacecraft that are the future. Musk has proven it with his return boosters that can land on a floating platform and be re-used. I thought I was looking at a sci-fi movie when I first saw it.

Plus, there are many more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_companies

27 posted on 03/04/2022 1:28:28 PM PST by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: A Navy Vet

A lot of those companies on that list were depending on Russian engines. There are US alternatives in development at the current time, but the only ones flying currently are the SpaceX and Blue Origin engines, which are not direct replacements. Given reasonable time, that won’t be a problem, but pretending like the Russians can bail from the venture without there being any significant issues on our side is both ignorant and dangerous.


28 posted on 03/04/2022 1:39:58 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Biden is okay with that, as long as they are “electric” brooms!


29 posted on 03/04/2022 1:51:37 PM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Officially TBD but SpaceX is scheduled to carry people to the ISS on March 30th.
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Maybe now is not the best time to send people there but rather to pick up people?


30 posted on 03/04/2022 2:02:34 PM PST by KittyKares (Trump put us in the room; now we're putting ourselves in the room. - Steve Bannon)
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To: jdsteel

How many times do Russian engines fly?

Of course Elon’s are more expensive, they’re made to be reused, along with the boosters they’re attached to.


31 posted on 03/04/2022 2:06:51 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Jan_Sobieski

At least NASA can still focus on their most important mission. Making Muslims feel good about themselves.


32 posted on 03/04/2022 2:19:05 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

That is certainly appropriate for many members of the US government these days.


33 posted on 03/04/2022 2:19:39 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Yo-Yo

SpaceX made 31 launches last year, all successful. They PLAN to make 52 this year. Generally the schedules are optimistic, but, I’m gonna guess they could do 40-45 with a loan to help in certain areas. Definitely money to build a few extra boosters, accelerate replacements for Russki engines, etc.

If pinched, cut back on commercial launches or Starlink, tho’ I hate to see Starlink NOT be the 2020’s equivalent of VOA.

SpaceX engines & systems are well proven now, it should not be THAT hard to ramp them up for more Falcon 9 Heavy’s, etc. It might take a year, though.


34 posted on 03/04/2022 2:24:12 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: rfp1234

Perfect.


35 posted on 03/04/2022 2:34:27 PM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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To: Spktyr

I wonder how tense things are on the ISS about now. 4 US crew, 1 German, 2 Russians. Soviet Soyuz scheduled to head up there in about a month, I think?

It’d be grand if we could get a cosmonaut to defect!


36 posted on 03/04/2022 2:39:19 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: A Navy Vet

“I thought I was looking at a sci-fi movie when I first saw it.”

Same here.


37 posted on 03/04/2022 2:50:55 PM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: A Navy Vet

“I thought I was looking at a sci-fi movie when I first saw it.”

Same here.


38 posted on 03/04/2022 2:50:55 PM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Why do we need ISS???


39 posted on 03/04/2022 3:24:46 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: rfp1234

We all were thinking the same thing.


40 posted on 03/04/2022 3:25:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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